Does anyone know if it is realistic to try and fix an ML5T gearbox from an XM TD12 to said Xantia (1999). Reason I ask is that I have 2 such gboxes and the chance of picking up a very nice Xantia break with a busted ME5T 'box and Xantia gboxes are like hens teeth over here.
//NiSk
'99 Xantia 1.9 td gearbox
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Hi Nigel,
I've thought about this, and think its a lot of work. The Xantia 1.9TD uses the BE3R box with the famous pull clutch (release bearing is part of cover plate). I know that you can mate the 1.9TD unit to the ML/ME5 type box as Citroen did it in the Dispatch/Jumpy vans. These use a conventional clutch arrangement. To get the ML5T into the Xantia, I guess that you're going to have to source Dispatch 1.9TD flywheel or (ideally one from a Xantia 2.1TD)with suitable clutch and I think that the box would go on. I have concerns about driveshaft lengths though, I think that you'd be looking at shafts from a Xantia 2.1TD with the ML5T box. Which must be even rarer than hens teeth!
I've thought about this, and think its a lot of work. The Xantia 1.9TD uses the BE3R box with the famous pull clutch (release bearing is part of cover plate). I know that you can mate the 1.9TD unit to the ML/ME5 type box as Citroen did it in the Dispatch/Jumpy vans. These use a conventional clutch arrangement. To get the ML5T into the Xantia, I guess that you're going to have to source Dispatch 1.9TD flywheel or (ideally one from a Xantia 2.1TD)with suitable clutch and I think that the box would go on. I have concerns about driveshaft lengths though, I think that you'd be looking at shafts from a Xantia 2.1TD with the ML5T box. Which must be even rarer than hens teeth!
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Thanks a lot for the input - the reason I asked is that I'm on the look out for a replacement killer having pranged by faithful '93 TD12 (with 530 000 km on the clock) on the front of a rather large Volvo FH12 (strange isn't it - I spend a lot of my time writing workshop manuals for that lump!) However it certainly increased my faith in the incredible strength of the XM passenger cage - it was still possible to open the passenger door, despite a direct hit from said juggernaught.
However - a new project has now attracted my attention - a late XM TD12 (98) Break that has suffered a broken cam belt and is going for a song WITH a new head (the old one is already removed and showed no signs of piston damage, just one or two bent valves). So when I've given it the eye, it may well be my new project.
In the mean time I'm driving around in an '85 PETROL audi 100 avant that I picked up for £250 incl. a years MOT and tax! (we all have to suffer in order to appreciate the finess of Citroën!)
//NiSk
However - a new project has now attracted my attention - a late XM TD12 (98) Break that has suffered a broken cam belt and is going for a song WITH a new head (the old one is already removed and showed no signs of piston damage, just one or two bent valves). So when I've given it the eye, it may well be my new project.
In the mean time I'm driving around in an '85 PETROL audi 100 avant that I picked up for £250 incl. a years MOT and tax! (we all have to suffer in order to appreciate the finess of Citroën!)
//NiSk