Raised idle with new MAP sensor

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Raised idle with new MAP sensor

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Having changed the MAP sensor on my petrol 1.6 16v (TU5JP4 / NFU) I now seem to have a raised idle: with the old sensor was about 800rpm, now 975rpm.

Diagbox readings at idle:

​Ignition:
  • Speed: 960​
  • Battery: 14.2​
  • Ignition advance: -10.5​
  • Charge time 1/4: 2.7​
  • Charge time 2/3: 2.7​
Air intake:​
  • Motorized throttle status: idling​
  • Throttle position voltage: 0.9​
  • Throttle angle: 0​
  • Manifold pressure: 490​
  • Air temp: 24​
  • Canister solenoid valve status: activated​
  • Canister solenoid OCR: 15​
Emission:​
  • Upstream Lambda: active, closed-loop, 0.6​
  • Downstream Lambda: active, open-loop, 0.6​
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Re: Raised idle with new MAP sensor

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How much running have you done since the change? :)
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Where did you get the new sensor from and what make is it ? What is the engine temperature with these readings ? Was there a fault with the old sensor that made you want to change it, was its connection bunged up with oil/carbon ? If you put the old one back do all the other readings differ ?

The lambda values seem a bit odd, if the downstream one is the same as upstream it suggests the catalyst is not doing anything. The upstream one ought to be switching constantly and not be steady unless the engine has just been started and is still cold. Do you have any fault codes stored ?
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mickthemaverick wrote: 11 Oct 2025, 13:28 How much running have you done since the change? :)
Only 50 miles
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Then I'd see how it goes after you've put a tankful of petrol through it. :)
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PaulC5 wrote: 11 Oct 2025, 13:42 Where did you get the new sensor from and what make is it ? What is the engine temperature with these readings ? Was there a fault with the old sensor that made you want to change it, was its connection bunged up with oil/carbon ? If you put the old one back do all the other readings differ ?

The lambda values seem a bit odd, if the downstream one is the same as upstream it suggests the catalyst is not doing anything. The upstream one ought to be switching constantly and not be steady unless the engine has just been started and is still cold. Do you have any fault codes stored ?
Just a cheapie Aliexpress unlabled sensor, bought on the basis that either ir works and shows reasonably realistic numbers in Diagbox or it doesn't and I return it.

Engine was up to temperature but not run for too long so not excessively warm.

Old sensor may not have been faulty but changed as a matter of course to see if it makes any difference to an slight hesitation on overrun ongoing issue.

Connector was fine, I had cleaned that previously.

Haven't tried replacing the old sensor yet, waitingh for a few comments first.

No relevent fault codes. ECU did throw a P1153, throttle position sensor, error after resetting the ECU by disconnecting the battery overnight but cured that by the throtle calibration procedure.
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If not already done I would clean the throttle plate/body using turps/white spirit/carb cleaner to wipe out any carbon build up.
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PaulC5 wrote: 12 Oct 2025, 12:54 If not already done I would clean the throttle plate/body using turps/white spirit/carb cleaner to wipe out any carbon build up.
Already done that and replaced the rubber throttle body to manifold seal a while back.
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Re: Raised idle with new MAP sensor

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Was the outside air temp actually 24'?
If you put the old MAP sensor back in does the idle return to 800RPM?
If you put the old MAP sensor back in what is the inlet manifold pressure?
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Re: Raised idle with new MAP sensor

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NickCUK wrote: 11 Oct 2025, 13:12 Having changed the MAP sensor on my petrol 1.6 16v (TU5JP4 / NFU) I now seem to have a raised idle: with the old sensor was about 800rpm, now 975rpm.
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Solved, turns out was a cracked Oil Breather Spider (plastic) which had been disturbed to get access to the MAP sensor. Crack now glued and idle has returned to normal so cheapie MAP sensor seems to be working fine.