Was this car originally one of the members here? Xantia 110 HDi W884 UAN

[Rhothgar]

Hi all,

I have seen this car for sale before. A silver Citroen Xantia 110 HDi.

Current owner has owned it for only 3 months. I could swear I saw it either on here or Ebay but completed listings only go back 3 months.

Or was it sold by Chevronics? I cannot seem to locate where I last saw it for sale.

[Skull]

Date of last V5C (logbook) issued 28 August 2024

Kind of rings a bell but I'd have to see a picture ....

[Rhothgar]

Date of last V5C (logbook) issued 28 August 2024

Kind of rings a bell but I'd have to see a picture ....

I know. Sort of sets alarm bells ringing. Am going to have a look at it this weekend all being well but seller took a deposit from someone who messed him about he's saying. I wonder if the bloke actually turned up and decided it was more trouble than it was worth.

Just want to try and find out what he paid for it and why he's getting rid so fast especially as car only had MOT two weeks ago.

Says it has LHM leak amongst other things but surely that would have been picked up on MOT. I'll see how bad it is.

I mean my "War Horse" is bad but it doesn't have any leaks at present and has been sound on that front. If you can't kill a Xantia with a tree, then should I give up on WH?

There's clearly some kind of knocking on the engine I would guess which he puts down to the "harmonic balancer". He means crankshaft pulley but I'm pretty sure they are not a metal-rubber-metal make up on the HDi. I should recall as I only did the cambelt 3500 miles ago on mine.

[MattBLancs]

There's clearly some kind of knocking on the engine I would guess which he puts down to the "harmonic balancer". He means crankshaft pulley but I'm pretty sure they are not a metal-rubber-metal make up on the HDi. I should recall as I only did the cambelt 3500 miles ago on mine.

On the 306's 90 bhp HDi it is two piece pulley, I'd have thought the 110 bhp was the same?

Think a torsional vibration damper is nearest correct

[MattBLancs]

Google image search of the reg number, first result:

HubNut!
https://images.app.goo.gl/Qsf5nriWwqgj5kji6

[Rhothgar]

But was it actually HubNuts?

Last owner has sent me a link to a HubNut video...

[Rhothgar]

It was actually Peak2CV's it turns out.

Is he a member on here? If so, does anyone know his user ID?

[Rhothgar]

Well. I finally went to look at it last weekend.

It appears to want to need more work that I feel able to do in what is going to be a cold November from hereon in.

Bodywork wise it's about the same as mine but structurally it is leaps and bounds better.

Seller advertised it has having bad bits:-

180000 miles (not bad really)
LHM Leak (depends)
Crank pulley noisy.

Car drove superb but lost enough fluid from reservoir to take it from between the two rings to the bottom ring in about a 15 mile drive? Both return pipes were broken despite the car having only been MOT'd on 25th October. It is hard to say how much loss they would have accounted for out of that lost.

There was also LHM on the underside of the aircon compressor which was not dripping but was holding its own as a drip ready to drip. I couldn't see where that had come from but I suspect from one of the piston end caps on the underside of the HP pump. No obvious path.

There were also leaks down the pipes on each inner wheel arch and one off the hydraulic steering pipe which is a shame as the steering was nice and silent and, as we know, the pipes are no longer available but a repair could be effected if someone had the time and wherewithal.

My engineer mate reckoned that there was a smell of burning friction material but the front brakes had recently been done. The handbrake was unusually high. The car does come with a spare clutch kit so I do wonder if that actually needs doing too. I thought it slipped during the test drive but I think that was just the almighty racket the crank pulley made when the car was revved above 3000rpm.

All in all, a car worth saving if someone has the time to do it. For me, I'd have to get it done immediately as I have nowhere to be able to store it until warmer weather arrives.

I would have to scrap 'War Horse' and have come to accept that it will be scrapped by April 1st next year when the current MOT runs out unless I teach myself to weld. The door gaps appear not to be parallel anymore. Of course, if I could bring myself to do the work in my mate's garage with his 'half-ramp' (he is not back until 26th November from his holidays) then I could save it from being scrapped. For this to happen, I wouldn't really want to pay more than scrap value (currently £150) to make it worth the headache it would no doubt be. The bonus would be that I could pilfer all the parts I need off WH like the strut tops, crankshaft pulley and even the crappy steering pipe I had made up.

As it is, he's not got back to me as yet and I am out all day tomorrow so I am pretty sure the car will end up being scrapped.

It's made me wonder if I should now move away from hydraulic Citroens. They are a pain in the proverbial although War Horse has been remarkably well behaved on that front apart from the front return pipes and the steering pipe. Knew I should have bought that pipe from Chevronics...

[Michel]

Where is this car?

[Rhothgar]

Where is this car?

It's near Bingham, Nottinghamshire.

[MattBLancs]

Interesting detailed review of what you found. Sounds a bit "out the frying pan into the fire" Vs War Horse so hard to say what's better option.

[Rhothgar]

Interesting detailed review of what you found. Sounds a bit "out the frying pan into the fire" Vs War Horse so hard to say what's better option.

Honestly Matt it drove beautifully. Far more refined than War Horse who needs to go to the knackers yard despite the engine being tip-top.

I ought to take some photos of the door gaps in daylight and see what you think.

[Frenchy]

Well this made very interesting reading, saves me doing a lot of looking and listening. I knew about the crank pulley, and the fact that it leaks LHM from several sources, also that it needs a new clutch, (dual Mass) but it still didn't put me off.

What swung it for me was the fact that he dropped the price to £350 for a quick sale and also the accident I was involved in last week which wrote off my immaculate rust free, low mileage TD 1.9. Bought my train ticket last night, went to collect at lunch time and drove it very comfortably home 80 miles. I know it's always a risk buying something unknown and unseen but I have done it on several occasions.

It handled very well overall, taking potholes (not on purpose) and corners very well, motorway at 70, inside lane just in case but arrived home with no warning lights on. Very pleased with it and now have parts to buy and fit.

I wasn't able to find a better one at short notice although I did go to look at a low mileage petrol one not too far away which was a rather hefty price and emitted very concerning engine noises.

I need to get this on the road very quickly as I have been loaned a courtesy Golf, that is all singing and dancing and feels it knows how to drive much better than me and I feel that in an argument it may win, so I won't be putting it to the test and would rather hand it back sooner rather than later.

I'm just waiting for the insurance payout but not holding my breath because as we all know it may not be enough to buy a new bicycle at halfrauds, although I am girding my loins for a protracted argument with them.

[Rhothgar]

Well this made very interesting reading, saves me doing a lot of looking and listening. I knew about the crank pulley, and the fact that it leaks LHM from several sources, also that it needs a new clutch, (dual Mass) but it still didn't put me off.

What swung it for me was the fact that he dropped the price to £350 for a quick sale and also the accident I was involved in last week which wrote off my immaculate rust free, low mileage TD 1.9. Bought my train ticket last night, went to collect at lunch time and drove it very comfortably home 80 miles. I know it's always a risk buying something unknown and unseen but I have done it on several occasions.

It handled very well overall, taking potholes (not on purpose) and corners very well, motorway at 70, inside lane just in case but arrived home with no warning lights on. Very pleased with it and now have parts to buy and fit.

I wasn't able to find a better one at short notice although I did go to look at a low mileage petrol one not too far away which was a rather hefty price and emitted very concerning engine noises.

I need to get this on the road very quickly as I have been loaned a courtesy Golf, that is all singing and dancing and feels it knows how to drive much better than me and I feel that in an argument it may win, so I won't be putting it to the test and would rather hand it back sooner rather than later.

I'm just waiting for the insurance payout but not holding my breath because as we all know it may not be enough to buy a new bicycle at halfrauds, although I am girding my loins for a protracted argument with them.

Have you bought it then? EDIT just fully read your post.

If you happen to find a better low mileage example between now and April then tag me into the sale of this car as I’d be interested potentially although looking at it reminded what a nightmare hydraulic Citroens can be when not right.

Also, try to effect a repair on the hydraulic steering pipe if the leak is from there as a replacement will NEVER feel the same. The important part there especially is the rubber pipe part of it. I think the best way to repair these is to have some brazing done with an appropriate repair price to maintain the fluid dynamics of the steering pipe.

I didn’t think the clutch is dual mass on these. I’m sure mine wasn’t.

Also, if you are thinking of changing things like the strut tops then I could always take mine off before I scrap it.

The stupid thing is that if it wasn’t November and we weren’t about to have this cold snap then I would have had it and pilfered all the parts needed off mine to do the work. £350 was a good price but perhaps you’re younger than me and more resilient to the trials and tribulations of messing about in such weather doing pipework and the like.

I reckon the best plan of action would be to clean off all the green blood using brake cleaner and observe. I have a feeling that most of the leaks are probably minor and that the majority of the leaks are probably from the front strut low pressure return pipes having snapped. £20 fix.

The stupid thing is I have AA coverage so having fixed those I could have simply just driven it until something failed. Sadly, I didn’t factor that into the equation when giving it consideration over the last week. SonI could have bought it and probably run it until next year and done the repairs when the weather was warmer.

[Frenchy]

I will certainly bear you in mind if I decide to sell in the future, although it was such a good drive, don't hold your breath. we are going to work through it and prioritise repairs. I have a pair of strut tops and strut return pipes, also the big octopus from chevronics which was going on to the 1.9 as we had done an emergency repair on the old one when it failed, so we have enough spares to start work. He also filled, and I mean filled the car with spare parts, doors, wings, door cards, lights, clutch and boxes of miscellaneous "stuff".

As far as hydraulics are concerned, they are not that frightening, we have done lots of work on these cars in the past and my son Aidan is becoming quite adept at sorting the problems out and making up pipes.

As for age, it's only a number, and we have a long carport and winter overalls!!!!!