C4X Build date

[BusybeasDS]

Hi all,

I have an on going query over on the DS section, but it makes me wonder when our current car was also built ?

This was a pre reg Sept 2023 VIN VR7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

I know it was in 2023... but no idea on month.

I wonder now if this is newer build than the DS we are looking at !

Thanks in advance

Steve

[GiveMeABreak]

Built 22nd August 2023.

You should also be aware that there is an outstanding after-sales campaign for your vehicle...

Code ML8, concerning the BSI software requiring an update. The campaign was launched on 27/03/2024, so I'd get it booked in - all work will be free of charge.

[BusybeasDS]

Cheers Marc,

So our 73 plate C4X (potential p/ex) is much newer than a 24 plate DS4 built in Jan 23 , we were looking at!
Bonkers or what... clearly registration plates aren't as reliable guide to age as what I thought!
Hmm...
If we ditch the DS4 purchase, the C4X is due its service next month ,so will get the update done then..
Thanks for the info.

Cheers
Steve

[GiveMeABreak]

No, registration is something you really cannot rely on, as we've seen before late registered vehicles that were in fact earlier models which left owners very disappointed.

I'm afraid to say DS as a brand is flailing badly. Poor sales and their 2023 announcement of their withdrawal from the Chinese market, plus their own announcement in 2023 that they will become an EV only producer - Good luck with that.... I think the end is near for the offshoot marque.

It leaves the DS9 being made in China, by a company and a plant where they no longer have any investment or control!

Personally I blame the big cheeses that know nothing about the history and the marque of Citroen or the original DS. The DS4 (earlier model) and DS 5 were abysmal vehicles, suffering extremely harsh rides. DS tried to set themselves apart as a luxury brand to compete with the Germans, but all they did was double the prices and still shared most of the same technology as used in Citroen and Peugeot vehicles. Fancy logos and embroidery on the dash, but a lot of the tech was untested and faulty, poor handling, rear end sliding and parts were extortionate. They have suffered with market share.

European sales went from 85k (0.71% of Market Share) in 2014 to 49k (0.48%) in 2022. I doubt things have improved in the last year and a half.

If I were you, I'd probably stick with the C4 X.

[BusybeasDS]

Thats what I have decided , thanks to all the info on here just this evening.
I have told them I wish to cancel and have asked for my deposit back !
I will keep you updated.

Steve

[BusybeasDS]

Hi Marc,

Just so I can compare C4X to DS4 build specs ;o)
I am curious to see how many parts are common between them.

Can you please let me have a build sheet for the C4X .. VIN VR7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Many thanks
Steve

[GiveMeABreak]

No problem.

Vehicle Characteristics
Vehicle family	C4 X (C43)
AS/RP N°	17088 82 1 0063
Warranty Start Date	30/09/2023
Engine serial number	10 Z1AF 0340152
OPB	00T9
BER	e9*2007/46*6816*17
P4A	9838066399
General Information
PRODUCT TYPE	PASSENGER CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE	CITROEN
VEHICLE FAMILY	C4 X (C43)
SILHOUETTE	4-DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL	COMMERCIAL VEHICLE LEVEL 2 PSA
ENGINE	EB2ADTS UE64 1.2 L PETROL
TRANSMISSION	STT TYPE 8-SPEED AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
PAINT TYPE	PAINTED METALLIC EXT TRIM TYPE
BODY COLOUR	BLACK PEARL PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE	PREMIUM UNIVERSAL TRIM C41
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR	"FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)	ATNG8 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX WITHOUT ELECTROMAGNETIC PUMP
CONVERSION GUIDANCE	WITHOUT CONVERSION
DEFINITION TO FOLLOW	INITIALE RANGE
ENGINE (TYPE)	EB TYPE ENGINE
OTHER BADGE, " MISC. "	WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
Vehicle Characteristics
TRIM LEVEL	COMMERCIAL VEHICLE LEVEL 2 PSA
PAINT TYPE	PAINTED METALLIC EXT TRIM TYPE
BODY COLOUR	BLACK PEARL PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE	PREMIUM UNIVERSAL TRIM C41
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR	"FT"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)	ATNG8 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX WITHOUT ELECTROMAGNETIC PUMP
Fuel Supply-Engine
FAN	1E 2VTS 140W AERO SHORT NOZZLE
DRIVE TRAIN	INTERNAL COMBUSTION DRIVE TRAIN
TANK FILTER	RESERVOIR FILTER INTERIOR
STOP AND START	WITH STOP AND START STARTER
ENGINE	EB2ADTS UE64 1.2 L PETROL
DRIVE BATTERY	WITHOUT TRACTION BATTERY
FUEL SUPPLY	DIRECT EXCHANGER TURBO INJECTION
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR	WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL	UNLEADED PETROL 95 QUALITY A/B/E/E+
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE)	EURO 6.4 ENGINE EMISSION CONTROL
EXHAUST	CRIMPED ROLLED TRANSVERSE SILENCER
ENGINE (TYPE)	EB TYPE ENGINE
CAPACITY	1200 CM3
CATALYTIC CONVERTER	WITHOUT CATALYST
FUEL TANK	FUEL TANK WITHOUT LOCATING TAB
FUEL TANK INSULATION	WITHOUT FUEL TANK INSULATION
COOLING MOTOR	RADIATOR 21DM2 - EP21
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING	W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE)	96KW - 230 NM
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM	"EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC WITHOUT ACCELEROMETER
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION	EURO 6.4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL EMISSION CONTROL
PARTICLE FILTER	WITH PARTICLE EMISSION FILTER
Gearbox Transmission
GEARBOX TYPE	ATN8 TYPE GEARBOX
TRANSMISSION	STT TYPE 8-SPEED AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)	ATNG8 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX WITHOUT ELECTROMAGNETIC PUMP
FINAL DRIVE RATIO	FINAL DRIVE RATIO 15 X 58
WHEEL STYLE	18-INCH ALLOY C41
RIM/TYRE SIZE	18 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE)	195/60 R18 96H - NOT FOR DIFFICULT ROAD CONDITIONS
WHEELS FITTED	WHEEL 6.5J18ET27
WHEEL (TYPE)	ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 1
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT	CONTI MK100 ESP
BRAKING ASSISTANCE IN REVERSE GEAR	WITHOUT REVERSE GEAR BRAKING ASSISTANCE
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR	REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR STIFFNESS 30000 NM/RAD
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE	WITHOUT STEERING LOCK
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR	FR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAMETER 22 HOLLOW
BRAKES (CIRCUIT)	REAR DISC PROTECTOR
BRAKE TYPE	VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
Body Fittings
HANDS FREE ACCESS AND STARTING	FRONT ACCESS+BOOT+CONTACTLESS STARTING
TOWBAR	WITHOUT TOWBAR
AERIAL	REAR SPOILER AERIAL + DIGITAL + GPS + GSM
FINISHER (SELF-ADHESIVE)	GLOSS BLACK REAR SURROUND TRIM
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE)	SILVER GREY SIDE PROTECTORS
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE)	BLACK CENTRE CAPS+BLACK BOLTS DESIGN
EXHAUST TAILPIPE	REAR RIGHT-HAND AND LEFT-HAND CHROME-PLATED EXHAUST PIPE
UNDERBODY SHIELD	FRONT RIGHT AND FRONT LEFT UNDER-FLOOR LONG DEFLECTOR PROTECTION
INDICATORS	LUMINOUS SIGNATURE
WASHER JET	STANDARD SCREEN WASH JET
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION	ELECTRIC FOLDING EXTERIOR MIRROR+DIODE
SPLASH SHIELD	ACOUSTIC FRONT + REAR MUD GUARDS + FRONT RIGHT-HAND EXTENSION
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM	W/O EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING	SOUNDPROOFING UNDER BONNET + BULKHEAD + SERVO
WINDSCREEN GLASS (TYPE)	STANDARD WINDSCREEN GLASS
WINDSCREEN WIPER	FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
FRONT PANEL BLANK	WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
BUMPER	BODY COLOUR BUMPER+GRAIN BLACK FRONT/GLOSS BLACK REAR SKIRT
FRONT FOGLAMP	LED FOG LAMPS + CORNERING LAMP
PANORAMIC VISUAL AID	VIDEO PARK 1
SPARE WHEEL	WITHOUT SPARE WHEEL
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES	BODY COLOUR EXTERIOR HANDLE
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS)	WITHOUT EXTERIOR MIRROR SPECIAL FEATURE
SUN ROOF	WITHOUT SUN ROOF
BUMPER TRIM	SILVER GREY FOGLAMP TRIM
GLASS (APPEARANCE)	TINTED + DARK-TINTED RR WINDOW GLASS
Interior Fittings
FAN	1E 2VTS 140W AERO SHORT NOZZLE
DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG	WITHOUT DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG
AUDIO PACK AUXILIARY SOCKET	AUDIO PACK AUXILIARY SOCKET 1 USB TYPE C
TELEMATIC UNIT	INDEPENDENT TELEMATIC UNIT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE	PREMIUM UNIVERSAL TRIM C41
ANTI-THEFT ALARM	VOLUME VARIATION+PERIMETER ANTI-THEFT ALARM-STD
REAR SEAT	FX ONE-PIECE REAR SEAT+2/3-1/3 FOLDING SEAT BACK
BLIND SPOT DETECTION	WITH BLIND SPOT MONITORING
REAR SEAT ARMREST	WITHOUT RR SEAT ARMREST
REAR SEATBELT	3 PYRO RETRACTORD + SEATBELT FASTENED TELL-TALE
FRONT SEATBELT	REEL+FASTENING ALARM+CONSTANT PASSENGER/ACTIVE DRIVER FORCE LIMITER
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP)	HOT OR WIDER TEMPERATE COUNTRY
SPEED GRADUATIONS	SPEED GRADUATION IN MPH
GEAR SELECTOR	GEAR SELECTOR AT THE FLOOR AND AT THE STEERING WHEEL
GRAB HANDLES	FRONT + REAR HANDLES
CONSOLE	UPPER TRIM
DRIVING POSITION	RIGHT HAND DRIVE
MIRROR LINK	WITH MIRROR LINK
LOAD SPACE LIGHTING	GLOVEBOX+LED FRONT CONSOLE
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT	SLUSH GRAIN BLACK K+CHRM VENT.
INT. TRIM AND EQUIPMENT VARIATION	STANDARD INTERIOR EQUIPMENT DRESSING
MISC. INT. LAMPS	LESS INTERIOR LIGHT
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS)	INSTRUMENT PANEL WITH MATRIX+WHITE AMBIANCE
DOOR TRIM	WITHOUT LINING
LOUDSPEAKER	4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR)+2 RR SPEAKERS
POLLEN FILTER	WITH POLLEN FILTER + ACTIVATED CARBON
LANE KEEPING MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE	WITHOUT TRAJECTORY CONTROL ASSISTANCE
PASSENGER COMPARTMENT SOUNDPROOFING	SOUNDPROOFING FOR BULKHEAD + TUNNEL TOP RANGE
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL	FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT PARALLEL ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT	DRIVER’S SEAT BACK WITH ANGLE ADJUSTMENT AND LUMBAR SUPPORT
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT	WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER’S SEAT ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SEAT ARMREST	FRONT CENTRAL ARMREST
FRONT SEAT ARMREST (OPERATION)	FRONT ARMREST MANUAL
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM	CONNECTABLE NAVIGATION SYSTEM
HEADLAMP BULBS	ECO LED
REAR WINDOW LIFT	SEQENT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
TRAFFIC INFORMATION READER	LKA STRUCTURAL EDGE
DISPLAY	10-INCH COLOUR HD TOUCH SCREEN
MISC. INT. ACCESSORY	PORTABLE SUPPORT
COURTESY MIRROR	DRIVER+PASSENGER CONCEALABLE MIRROR WITH LED LIGHTING
OIL GAUGE	STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
FITTING REAR HEAD RESTRAINT	MOUNT 3 REAR HEAD-REST
HEATING ELEMENT	NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG	FRONT CHEST SIDE+REAR CHEST/HEAD CURTAIN AIRBAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTING	DRIVER + FR PASSENGER FOOTWELL LIGHTING
HEATING DUCT	FRONT+REAR PILLAR+REAR VENTILATION
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION	MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
WIFI	WITHOUT WIFI
STORAGE (DRIVING POSITION)	GLOVE BOX + DRAWER
RADIO RECEIVER	ANALOGUE + DAB RADIO RECEIVER
REFRIGERATION	AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL	WITH GEAR CHANGE
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL	DRIVER’S HEIGHT ADJUSTER HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR	ELECTROCHROMATIC DAY-NIGHT INTERIOR MIRROR
STORAGE (OTHERS)	PLAIN STORAGE POCKET
CARPET COVER	W/O CARPETMAT
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS)	WITHOUT EXTERIOR MIRROR SPECIAL FEATURE
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM	FRONT/REAR/SIDE RADAR OBSTACLE DETECTOR + TRAJECTORY
TRIM ADAPTATION	WITHOUT MOULDING ADAPTATION
RADIO FREQUENCY	RADIO FREQUENCY AMT6_FMT4-50-DIAFTAPSTMC_DABT1
LOCKING CONTROL	CENTRAL DEADLOCKING + AUTOMATIC LOCKING
STEERING WHEEL	LEATHER COATED STEERING WHEEL
Electrical
LIGHTING OF LAMPS	AUTOMATIC SWITCHING ON OF THE LIGHTS+AUTOMATIC SWITCHING
ALTERNATOR	ALTERNATOR CLASS 15 UHEA
BATTERY	L3 760 70AH EFBC 760 BATTERY BECOMES EFBC
STARTER MOTOR	STTD STARTER
LOAD SPACE LIGHTING	GLOVEBOX+LED FRONT CONSOLE
MISC. INT. LAMPS	LESS INTERIOR LIGHT
INDICATORS	LUMINOUS SIGNATURE
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION	ELECTRIC FOLDING EXTERIOR MIRROR+DIODE
CEN. LOCKING REM CONTROL FREQUENCY	433.92 MHZ SUPER HETERODYNE
HEADLAMP BULBS	ECO LED
BATTERY CHARGER	WITHOUT ON-BOARD CHARGER
MULTIPLEXING	R3 ECO ELECTRICAL ARCHITECTURE
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING PLUG	WITHOUT VEHICLE LOAD RECOGNITION
FOOTWELL LIGHTING	DRIVER + FR PASSENGER FOOTWELL LIGHTING
BATTERY CHARGE MEASUREMENT	WITH BATTERY CHARGE MEASUREMENT
FRONT FOGLAMP	LED FOG LAMPS + CORNERING LAMP
Component Manufacturers
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT	CONTI MK100 ESP
Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION	STANDARD
MODIF. DURING MODEL YEAR	WITHOUT MINOR MODIFICATIONS
CONDENSER (SPECIFICATIONS)	CONDENSER 20DM2 - THICKNESS 12 CLASS 2
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS	NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION	RIGHT HAND DRIVE
VIN PLATE	EUROPEAN UNION CONSTRUCTOR’S PLATE + NRE
LABEL	WITHOUT LABEL
AIR CONDITIONING PIPES	STANDARD AIR CONDITIONING PIPES
TRAFFIC SIDE	DRIVING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE
SET OF KEYS	SET OF BADGE KEYS + BACK-UP KEY
REFRIGERANT	AIRCON FLUID 1234 YF
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT	PUNCTURE REPAIR KIT
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING PLUG	WITHOUT VEHICLE LOAD RECOGNITION
SURFACE CONDITIONS	GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES	BODY COLOUR EXTERIOR HANDLE
SPEED MONITORING	WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
SLAVE CONTROL UNIT	BSI + COM 2020