Help with a replacement remote for Citroen C1 2018

[Lecit]

Hello,

I wanted to know if I can get the following item and program it only to act as the remote control to lock/unlock the car (key not needed): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004054122897.html

Then, follow these steps to make it work:

I lost the original key fob and getting a new one is too expensive right now. I already copied a regular key to have as a spare, but I also want a remote to unlock/lock the car without key.

Will the item in the link work? And will the instructions in the video really work and program the remote?

Thanks!

[wheeler]

Yes that is the correct programming procedure for the remote. The remote is programmed independently of the transponder chip on these.
It should be the correct remote & at that price deffo worth a try.
Its only an extra £1 for the chip to go with it so you would be as well getting a chip that could be programmed at a later date. For this car you need an H chip.

[Lecit]

Thank you!!

And this procedure does not also reset the immobilizer? So that my other keys are safe?

I noticed they also do a cutting service. I'm thinking to take the chip from the key I copied and put it there.

Do you think a cutting service by providing an image like they do is accurate?

And lastly - when I looked up a genuine key, the blade was TOY48. but this key comes with VA2. Are they compatible? What's the difference?

[wheeler]

The remote & immobiliser are completely separate on the C1.
As for the blade the mk1 C1 uses a VA2/6 blade but the mk2 from around 2016 uses a TOY48 blade & they are definitely not interchangeable. The VA2/6 is a single track key & the TOY48 is a double track key. It certainly is possible to cut keys from a picture.

[Lecit]

Thank you! You helped alot.

By the way, I found someone selling a genuine key, second hand online and I thought I'd prefer to have the original one with the logo and maybe better quality, something like that: https://www.car-keys-online.com/genuine ... 89580.html


Do you know what's the part number for the blade only? I assume TOY48 is just the profile but the edge part may have different shapes (the part that's inside the mechanism)

[wheeler]

Citroen dont sell the blades for the flip keys seperately so there wont be a part number. TOY48 is the profile an how its cut. For example Hyundai & Kia use the same blank blade as the TOY48 but its known as HY22/KIA7 as they are cut differently.
The blade in the picture in the link you posted is TOY48 which is what you need for this car.

[Lecit]

Thank you. The website in the link does not ship to me, and also what's confusing is that I found two more variations for the TOY48 : one with flat end like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004505275512.html

Unlike the previous link where it's sort of triangle, and I also found one with a triangle but with a hole (and the triangle is slightly different): https://a.aliexpress.com/_onehWiS

Sorry for so many questions, I just got confused and I really wanted the original key

[wheeler]

The first link the blade base fitting is for a universal remotes.
2nd link is for blades that fit into OEM type remotes

[Lecit]

I'm sorry, I didn't give the 3rd link for the triangle type without hole: https://www.car-keys-online.com/afterma ... en-c1.html

It says it's also for flip, but without the hole? This is what I was talking about and just forgot to provide link

Also - if I buy a second-hand remote - will the procedure to re-program it work as in the video? OR it only works for un-programmed new remotes?

[wheeler]

I have never tried to re use one of these but I imagine the remote can be re programmed to another car but the chip won’t be as 8A(H) chips lock when programmed.
I would get one with a TOY48 blade already attached to it. The bases can be different between original & aftermarket remotes

[Lecit]

thank you,

Do they lock and then even if I go to a locksmith he won't be able to re-program it? i.e. I'd need to also buy a new chip?
Also, for the original unit, it's not possible to buy second hand with blank base unless I buy one from the dealer. I wish I had a picture of how a genuine base looks like, so many options lol

I think I might give it a try though to program it just as a remote and use the key to start (as my previous car also was separate and it's still more convenient)

[wheeler]

You cant buy just the blade from dealer, the dealers only sell complete remote.
Yes the chip locks to the car so you cant reprogram it to a different car

[Lecit]

Yep, dealers sell only the complete :/

One more thing and that's it!
One of the comments on the YouTube videos above mentioned that they bought a used key like I plan to do, and this manually reprogramming the remote didn't work
So maybe there's a chance that even the remote is "locked" once it's programmed to a car.

In case the method doesn't work to reprogram the remote - do you know if I go to a locksmith - can the remote be programmed via their special device and not just the immobilizer?

[myglaren]

Can't say with respect to yours but I needed a second key for the recently deaded Civic. An Autolocksmith came to the door, programmed a Peugeot key fob and cut the manual key for £130, including the fob & key.

[wheeler]

The remote is programmed manually on this car, cant be done via diagnostics.
As i said I’ve never tried using a second hand one on this car but i wouldn’t have thought it locks. I do know the Toyota H chip locks once programmed though.