xantia tie bar

jsruddy · Unread post by **jsruddy** » 16 Jun 2004, 01:51

My 99 T reg 1.9TD automatic hatchback appears to not have a rear suspension subframe tie bar (approx 3/4 in. dia x 3 ft. long,two bolts each end.)it seems strange for any one to have removed this, automatic gearbox has been replaced, but exhaust is original,is the tie bar essential, and/or was it dropped on some models.???

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 16 Jun 2004, 14:28

Both of mine (1995 and 1997 TDs) have tie bars.

Unread post by **RichardW** » 16 Jun 2004, 15:03

It HAS to have a tie bar (anti-roll bar) as this is what the height corrector takes its input from. If it's not there for some reason, the rear suspension it's sure going to behave oddly.....[}:)]

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 16 Jun 2004, 18:49

No, there is a tie bar as well as the anti-roll bar. The tie bar is a solid round metal bar held on with two bolts at each end, the ends have been flattened where the bolts go through. The bar bolts to the two lower parts of the subframe somewhere below the pivot arm bearings.
I'm not entirely sure of its function except to keep the two lower parts of the subframe the same distance apart, and probably to maintain rear suspension geometry during cornering.
I had to losen this tie bar when I replaced the exhaust front section on both Xantias, its probably possible to avoid removing the tie bar if you take the back box off instead, but for me removing the tie bar seemed easier at the time.

Unread post by **RichardW** » 16 Jun 2004, 20:54

I stand corrected[:I]
Learn something new everyday - of course I'll have to look under mine now to see what is what[:D]

paranoid · Unread post by **paranoid** » 16 Jun 2004, 22:43

If its been jacked up on that bar, it can bend to a very peculiar shape, pulling the rear arms to very odd angles,(nearly did it myself!!)

jsruddy · Unread post by **jsruddy** » 17 Jun 2004, 01:51

does anyone else have an automatic to see if they are different, and would a gear box change need the axhaust pipe dropping as an excuse for removing the tie bar and then forgeting to replace it??? I'm worried that not having a tie bar will distort thr subframe?