The Berlingo from hell

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The Berlingo from hell

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For some reason (aka the partner wanted one for the dogs) i made the mistake of travelling 70 odd miles to pick up the berlingo multispace dw8 from hell.

After the 70 year old bloke made some excuse as to why it was easier to meet me at the train station (conveniently so i didnt get his address) and then do a runner before I could test drive it due to some story about his wife taking bad and having had a triple heart bypass I nursed it home and proceeded to work my way through the niggles whilst between questioning my existance and fighting the urge to cry. Thatll teach me to respect and trust old people.

one alternator, steering pump (complete arse to fit), aux belt and very annoyed partner later i managed to cure the warning lights only to be met with a constant boot lid open message. Being a sparky of some degree i traced the wires and found only two leading to a plunger type solenoid on ther boot mech which seemed to have a resistance accross them so I assume the connection back to the BCU is good and I am not dealing with a broken wire. followed the wires through into the roof lining to confirm they hadnt chafed at the rubber grommet.

I have tried another locking module which gives me the same error (with the boot definately shut) and a persistant beeping sound. Now whuilst it has crossed my mind to drill the beeper out or just ram a screwdriver through it id like to do it properly and wondered if there was something im missing as sadly i got rid of my diagbox / lexia tool and i cant see what the cause is.

had another hour playing about today and on opening the boot the tailgate door card dropped on my head then then handle on the drivers rear sliding door has lost its bar and wont open from the outside so thats next weekends jobs sorted in case i was thing i was going to actualy have a day off.

on the plus side i cured the handbrake / stop warning message by unplugging the brake reservoir sensor so today hasnrt been a complete write off #-o
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Oh gosh :( What a sorry tale Rob... I do hope all will soon come good and there are no more horrors lurking...

Keep us posted ;) Looking forward to the next instalment :)
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Sorry to read that tale of woe Rob but please don't tar all 70 year olds with the same brush!! Out of interest which station did you meet him at for the benefit of other members. :)
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I don't think this can be resolved in installments, more Trigolgy of essays, this is gunna turn into a movie franchise, popcorn at the ready. On a serious note, it sounds like alot of niggly problems that build up to a supposedly major issue, when there isn't one. It's like a DIY list at home, major issues but once you tick each job off it's not so bad. Look on the bright side rob78. It could always get worse. You'll get there eventually
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LOL well at least its given you lot a chuckle. I am kind of seeing the funny side myself. either that or the manical laughing is me finally losing the plot.

For those interested, the station was peterborough and the gentleman came from a village called Eye, though i think ****hole would be more apt.

And without a doubt ill sort all niggly jobs then the clutch will go :rofl2:
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Rob, you have the right attitude and are a natural Citroen owner ;) It's said a sense of humour is an essential part of ownership... You have that so all's well :)

And you've shared your troubles - that always helps... And we're all on-hand here to help you :)
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I would expect the boot open switch to be fitted at the catch hasp (car side).
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Thanks for your input xantia, I have removed the hasp to check but I'm still none the wiser as there's nothing to indicate a switch or sensor just the two bolts holding it in place.

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The handle mechanism has no switches or sensors the only bits with any wiring in the boot are the wiper mechanism and the plunger solenoid on the lock for the central locking.

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I've felt all round the edges for a switch like on the sliding doors but to no avail citroen certainly excelled themselves with this one.
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Citroen are the greatest at complicated intermittent electronic controls. There's a reason they haven't built a space shuttle
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The main trick is to leave ONE simple fault (that you can live with, such as a blown light bulb in the boot) once all of the major problems are resolved. Otherwise the ECUs will get confused that thee is nothing wrong, and throw up all sorts of weird issues that don't make sense (until you realise that your car is having a panic attack because it does not know how to handle the fact that EVERYTHING is working properly!!!).
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im beginning to think the wifes insistance for a berlingo is grounds for divorce
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You mean any Citroen.... Is grounds for divorce
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My Dispatch 2010 talks cobblers about an open door, fr rh, Depends on weather, temp etc. Wheeler told me the switch is in the locking mech in the door, can't be repaired, just replaced. As it's intermittent I haven't gone any further. Saw another post on here where a 'blue' wire (though PSA don't follow colours) was cut to prevent a door open message.
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* goes to shed searching for wirecutters * a blue wire you say? worth a pop i have a few butt connectors if it goes pearshape

gosh this really is as much fun as the previous landrover freelander we had.....

on a positive note, yesterday i took the intake pipes off and tightened up the rocker cover which stopped a minor weep and found two small vac lines had come off that attatched under the throttle flap due to the ends splitting. Trimmed these up and refitted and its cured the horrific shudder that you got on starting.

but wait, whilst this sounds like some progress was made........

went to the next village marvelling at the smoothness of the refined 1.9D engine and promptly blew a hole in the front box where the downpipe is welded :rofl2:
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Don't rely on the colour of the wiring used by the various PSA vehicles. It is known that they can change colours along their length (for example, when going through plugs/sockets). However, there will be a code printed every few inches along the length of each wire, and this will remain constant from start to end.
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