Citroen C5 2.0i 16v auto al4 handbrake problem

[thundermaster]

Good evening,

The handbrake yesterday did a rattling sound and after that, it doesn't work. The common 'anti roll back' and 'handbrake faulty' messages appeared, as I read in other posts in this forum.
Tried to get it to Citroen, they changed some plastics in the wheels but nothing. They told me "try driving the car, it maybe fix by itself, because new EPB box costs 1700 euros!".

Any ideas will be very appreciated on how to fix it or to find a cheap part. The part details are: 9687473180 HW F08 SW F08
EPB DE 10:2202-0115.4.

Is there someone who can fix it, I am searching here in Greece.

or

Is there a chinese cheap solution???

Many many thanks

Nick

[GiveMeABreak]

It really depends what thee issue is - without further info on the actual problem, it could be anything - cables, actual EPB unit itself etc.

Citroen won't repair these, it's a complete unit as far as they are concerned unfortunately. Have you had any work done on the brakes (calipers / discs / pads) recently?

[thundermaster]

Thank you Marc for your response, the only thing I hear is a continuous 'goop - goop' noise from the rear wheels six times, when I keep pulled the button for about three seconds. Also, I pulled the yellow thing under the center console but it does nothing, I don't have any further information, so is there any other solution? China maybe? The new part is very expensive.

[GiveMeABreak]

Don't pull the emergency release unless the parking brake won't release! That's only to release the parking brake in an emergency.

Holding the electronic brake control pad up for a long time should provide maximum application, but if there is a fault with the system, then I wouldn't continue to do this. I think it needs investigation, but realistically, you may be looking at a replacement.

Note that new replacements form Citroen now exclude the emergency release element.

[thundermaster]

I did pads but 5.000 kms ago. This is about your question, I saw it now.

[thundermaster]

If you know Marc, is there a difference to this part, between lhd and rhd cars, because I found something from England.

Thanks

[GiveMeABreak]

No difference between the LHD / RHD vehicles. All new replacement electric parking brakes have now been replaced with the same version and part.

[thundermaster]

Thank you again Marc. Does transmission make difference? My car is auto (al4), I found some parts with exactly the same code but they don't say if they are for auto or manual cars.

[MGmike]

Thank you again Marc. Does transmission make difference? My car is auto (al4), I found some parts with exactly the same code but they don't say if they are for auto or manual cars.

The transmission does make a small difference when picking a used module. They are configured to match the transmission but are easily re-configured if your garage has a lexia or equivalent.

[GiveMeABreak]

The parts are the same regardless, but the EPB contains a slave ECU, of which the ESP ECU is the master controlling ECU, so there should be no difference at all as your ESP ECU will be the same and already configured. There is no direct configuration for the EPB ECU.

[thundermaster]

I talk to a Citroen dealer, and he told me that the code for new part for my car is: 1612865480, and old code is 470210. The part that the car has now is coded with the codes I wrote in previous post. The codes are different.
Also, I found this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/1612865480-Han ... B0BF56G975

which says it is compatible with 1612865480 and 470210.

Any ideas of what to do?

Thank you very much

[GiveMeABreak]

Those were the original part codes, but have all been replaced now with the same superseded part regardless.

The handbrake needs putting into service mode first before disconnection of the cables and unit, and on correct refitting, requires the handbrake to be calibrated with Diagbox or suitable capable diagnostic tool after refitting. Critical!: Ensure that once the handbrake has been put into service mode, that the car battery terminals are disconnected. Failure to do this can result in the EPB being automatically applied when working on the system if the ignition is switched on - resulting in damage / injury.

[thundermaster]

Many many thanks for the reply and advice Marc! So, this part:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/1612865480-Han ... B0BF56G975

will work? I guess the answer is 'yes', and I find it a better solution than a used one, in a small price.

Which is your opinion?

[GiveMeABreak]

I can't speak for aftermarket sellers or their parts as it obviously is not an original part - they have (illegally) cloned the PSA sticker on it from the photos. The originals are made by 'Cinch'. So I can't comment on quality or compatibility - and there are no reviews.......

[thundermaster]

Here in Greece the original part from Citroen costs 1730 euros.
The price of this aftermarket part is only 255.

A small difference.