Hello everyone.
I'd like you to give your opinions on how the following cars handle so I can figure out approximately where they sit in this basic representation, having never been in one, just for the seak of curiosity (knowing they are not really comparable and that most of these classic cars are bought "with the heart", because of the feelings they give even if it sometimes isn't the most rational decision... however I have no other way of "measuring" them and of course I'm also not interested in buying them).
Also, feel free to share your personal experiences or any other thread/article about the topic that could be interesting.
From what i've read and the idea I have (therefore expect an inaccurate representation), let's start from here. You can copy and correct it.
Comfort axis (1-10):
(Activa-5 ?BX-6 ?GS?? ?XM-6.5 ?CX-7 ?C6-7.5 ?SM-9 ?DS-10)
Handling axis (1-10):
(C6-4 ?DS-5 ?CX-6.5 ?SM-7 ?XM-7.5 ? GS?? ?BX-8.5 ?Activa-10)
Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
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Rp0thejester
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
No C8?... I know it has no hydraulic suspension, but it should be included even if the fing awful catagory
Ryan
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
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Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
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Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
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Hell Razor5543
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Likewise, no C5? The Mk1 and Facelift was fully hydropneumatic, while the top end models of the X7 were. My C5 Facelift has the Hydractive 3+, with the Sports button.
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
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ex C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
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Rp0thejester
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Wow, we sound so nerdy....
Ryan
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
Champion of Where's CitroJim
Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
Champion of Where's CitroJim
Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
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Michel
Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
A properly set up Xantia Activa handles better and rides smoother than nearly all of the listed vehicles in my experience. The other top one would be an late model XM V6.diuco wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 14:38 Hello everyone.
I'd like you to give your opinions on how the following cars handle so I can figure out approximately where they sit in this basic representation, having never been in one, just for the seak of curiosity (knowing they are not really comparable and that most of these classic cars are bought "with the heart", because of the feelings they give even if it sometimes isn't the most rational decision... however I have no other way of "measuring" them and of course I'm also not interested in buying them).
Also, feel free to share your personal experiences or any other thread/article about the topic that could be interesting.
From what i've read and the idea I have (therefore expect an inaccurate representation), let's start from here. You can copy and correct it.
Comfort axis (1-10):
(Activa-5 ?BX-6 ?GS?? ?XM-6.5 ?CX-7 ?C6-7.5 ?SM-9 ?DS-10)
Handling axis (1-10):
(C6-4 ?DS-5 ?CX-6.5 ?SM-7 ?XM-7.5 ? GS?? ?BX-8.5 ?Activa-10)
GS handles great, rolls like a small boat in a rough sea though. BX also good handler, especially the GTI 8 and 16v. Good ride too.
I've only been in one DS and two CXs, but both of them were not to my taste at all. Great going in a straight line, but not wonderful round the bends.
All the Xantias handle decently and ride well if maintained properly. The C5 - I've had 3 of them... not my cup of tea, smooth enough but "dead" feeling.
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davoxx
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
For me Xantia exclusive is a 8-9 for handling.
For comfort CX Prestige was great.
Avtiva are very comfortable, I think more so than a C5 X7 (but the ones I have could be crap).
A fully sorted XM is very comfy too, I think the same as an Xantia exclusive, the edge to the XM because of the seats though.
For comfort CX Prestige was great.
Avtiva are very comfortable, I think more so than a C5 X7 (but the ones I have could be crap).
A fully sorted XM is very comfy too, I think the same as an Xantia exclusive, the edge to the XM because of the seats though.
why?
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CitroJim
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
The XM seats did not suit me at all... I put it down to them being too big for me - two of me could quite comfortably fit on one - and I used to slide all over the place going round corners
I found them quite firm too. Maybe I'm not heavy enough for them...
Genuine Xantia Activa leather seats with their motorised bolsters were brilliant - I could adjust them to fit me perfectly...
Jim
A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
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Rp0thejester
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Ryan
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
Champion of Where's CitroJim
Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
Champion of Where's CitroJim
Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
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Hell Razor5543
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Jim, you are so slender I heard that when you once hid behind a rake it turned round to see where you had gone!CitroJim wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 17:45The XM seats did not suit me at all... I put it down to them being too big for me - two of me could quite comfortably fit on one - and I used to slide all over the place going round corners![]()
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I found them quite firm too. Maybe I'm not heavy enough for them...
Genuine Xantia Activa leather seats with their motorised bolsters were brilliant - I could adjust them to fit me perfectly...
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
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Rp0thejester
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Hell Razor5543 wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 17:52Jim, you are so slender I heard that when you once hid behind a rake it turned round to see where you had gone!CitroJim wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 17:45The XM seats did not suit me at all... I put it down to them being too big for me - two of me could quite comfortably fit on one - and I used to slide all over the place going round corners![]()
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I found them quite firm too. Maybe I'm not heavy enough for them...
Genuine Xantia Activa leather seats with their motorised bolsters were brilliant - I could adjust them to fit me perfectly...
Ryan
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
Champion of Where's CitroJim
Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
'99 Xsara 1.6 X (Red) with Sunkissed bonnet. T59 SBX
'54 Astra Estate 1.7DTI (Artic White)
'06 C8 2.2Hdi Exclusive (Aster Grey)
Champion of Where's CitroJim
Yes I ask the stupid questions, because normally it is that simple.
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CitroJim
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Rp0thejester wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 17:50![]()
your lucky I'm no good at Photoshop Jim, I've got images of you driving in a baby seat so you don't slide around
Hell Razor5543 wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 17:52 Jim, you are so slender I heard that when you once hid behind a rake it turned round to see where you had gone!
Thanks both, that gave me a great giggling session
Jim
A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
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davoxx
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Agreed, those were the best, but they never really made their way over here. The regular seats were good too!CitroJim wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 17:45 Genuine Xantia Activa leather seats with their motorised bolsters were brilliant - I could adjust them to fit me perfectly...
I thought I did find the xm seats very soft and plush, but maybe my memory is wrong on that?
why?
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xantia_v6
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Re: Hydroneumatic citroëns ride and handling
Having both an XM Exclusive and a Xantia Exclusive, I would say that the Xantia seats are more comfortable, certainly more adjustable.
The Xantia seats do suffer from saggy padding, particularly if a previous owner of the car was large in the seating department.
In terms of ride comfort, I think the XM has a slight edge, but they are very similar.
The Xantia seats do suffer from saggy padding, particularly if a previous owner of the car was large in the seating department.
In terms of ride comfort, I think the XM has a slight edge, but they are very similar.