LED conversion

[lukerooker]

Afternoon all. looking at changing out the rear indicators, Reg lights and reversing lights.

I have found a part number 6340F0 for a LED interchangeable online.

Has anyone successfully managed to change out the Reversing and Rear indicator lamps to LED without CANbus issues???
if so, any link to relevant LEDs would be much apprechiated

thanks all

2016 DS5

[lukerooker]

apologies Conversion (typo) and its 2016 DS5

[GiveMeABreak]

I wouldn't bother - they will cause issues, are not road legal if the original lights are designed for halogen, they'll often cause intermittent flashing whilst driving at night at random occasions - not something you want happening if you cause an accident and will load the BSI fault log with errors.

Stick to the (P21W) for reversing and the standard W5W bulb for the registration plate.

[Paul-R]

The OP's not asking about headlamp bulbs. As far as I am aware it's not illegal to to change filament bulbs to LED in other situations providing the maximum light intensity allowable isn't breached.

It's not directly comparable but I changed the revering lamp bulbs (W16W IIRC) in our 308 to LED for a brighter light as the originals are very poor. They work fine and the light is much improved although they register an error stored when I read the car for error codes. They do not flag up anything on the dashboard in normal driving though and they do not flash, which I have read can sometimes happen.

[GiveMeABreak]

Yes, I'm aware of that - he stated Reversing and Reg bulbs specifically. Same applies - LEDs can be too bright for following traffic. Same applies about not being e mark approved as far as I'm aware unless you can provide something that says otherwise

[lukerooker]

The OP's not asking about headlamp bulbs. As far as I am aware it's not illegal to to change filament bulbs to LED in other situations providing the maximum light intensity allowable isn't breached.

It's not directly comparable but I changed the revering lamp bulbs (W16W IIRC) in our 308 to LED for a brighter light as the originals are very poor. They work fine and the light is much improved although they register an error stored when I read the car for error codes. They do not flag up anything on the dashboard in normal driving though and they do not flash, which I have read can sometimes happen.

cheers mate, yeah as i said it was for indicators and reversing. the main being reversing. i have changed all my previous 4 cars to LED for reversing and the difference is night and say (excuse the pun). the benefit was great. can't see how me having LEDs for reversing will cause any other driver issues. if you stare at any bulb for a length of time it will cause you sight issues, including halogen.

anyways i was looking to see if anyone had done it and what lamps didn't produce a CANbus error.

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok so the point I was making in a roundabout way was yes, I had done this previously in the past, for reversing lights, but because of the electrical issues, annoyance to other drivers removed them back to stock bulbs, but the brighter halogens. I was getting flashed by drivers occasionally and when I pulled over on one occasion, he told me the reversing lights were flickering on and off (and that was driving forward!). That's why I mentioned it.

As for the other bit:

LED bulbs
Retrofitting is when you replace a standard bulb with an LED version. At the moment, it’s completely road legal for you to replace an internal bulb with an LED bulb. However, there’s no legislation to cover retrofitting external facing light sources and therefore LED exterior bulbs in this instance are not road legal.

[myglaren]

There is a bloke over the road from me had a BMW brought from Poland and had LED lights all round.
When it was started the headlights would come on, go off, come on, go off about half a dozen times, not flicker, pulse at about 2Hz.
Noticed recently that his number plate lights were doing the same. Would have told him but he swapped it for an Audi a few days ago.

I put LEDs in my reversing lights. Much brighter but not any more use due to their placement and the stupid rear screen. They don't flicker. They did come with load resistors but I never used them.

[lukerooker]

right...............thanks all. Think i will just go by trial and error. i have spare sets lying around that I have removed from previous cars, so ill play about and see what i think. I am not looking to replace anything forward facing as the car has Xenon and Leds anyways.

depends how easy it is to get into the cluster anyways. if its anything like my A8, the rear lights are a pain in the arse as you have to remove the whole boot liner to do so.

[GiveMeABreak]

I forgot to mention too that my BSI fault log was 'flooded' with the same fault code regarding the lighting circuit, which of course as the BSI memory is limited, could stop recording more important faults if it's full of these.

[lukerooker]

I forgot to mention too that my BSI fault log was 'flooded' with the same fault code regarding the lighting circuit, which of course as the BSI memory is limited, could stop recording more important faults if it's full of these.

happy days, ill maybe just see if i can disable the circuit that looks for the lighting perimeters. i did that recently on one of my other cars, that way it isnt disguising any other faults.

[NotAnInterestingName]

I've got mostly LED bulbs on my 2016 DS5. I'm not an inconsiderate dick, I know that LED headlight conversions are stupid and selfish! I've also got the headlight factory upgrade, so no bulbs at the front to replace.

I've replaced the following with LED bulbs...

Rear indicators - yellow bulbs
Reversing lights - white bulbs, seriously bright, like headlights so you can actually see where you're going, it looks like daylight on the reversing camera. Obviously there's nobody behind when reversing, so dazzle isn't an issue.
Number plate lights - complete replacement unit, chinesey cheapo stuff from ebay.

I've left the red tail/brake lights as standard. They have a specified brightness level, otherwise they will dazzle the car behind. But perhaps that would be an advantage, given that most drivers don't seem to have a clue about stopping distance these days!

All without issues or error messages. MOT passed no problems. Highly recommended by me!

I replaced mine a year ago. I can't remember how but don't have any traumatic memories, so presumably it was simple enough. I think the user manual covers it.

[myglaren]

I've left the red tail/brake lights as standard. They have a specified brightness level, otherwise they will dazzle the car behind. But perhaps that would be an advantage, given that most drivers don't seem to have a clue about stopping distance these days!

That is interesting. I have often wondered if there was an regulations, mostly triggered by noticing how rubbish Jaguar rear lights were until fairly recently.
Some of the ones from the past couple of years are aesthetically deplorable but not excessively bright.

[lukerooker]

I've got mostly LED bulbs on my 2016 DS5. I'm not an inconsiderate dick, I know that LED headlight conversions are stupid and selfish! I've also got the headlight factory upgrade, so no bulbs at the front to replace.

I've replaced the following with LED bulbs...

Rear indicators - yellow bulbs
Reversing lights - white bulbs, seriously bright, like headlights so you can actually see where you're going, it looks like daylight on the reversing camera. Obviously there's nobody behind when reversing, so dazzle isn't an issue.
Number plate lights - complete replacement unit, chinesey cheapo stuff from ebay.

I've left the red tail/brake lights as standard. They have a specified brightness level, otherwise they will dazzle the car behind. But perhaps that would be an advantage, given that most drivers don't seem to have a clue about stopping distance these days!

All without issues or error messages. MOT passed no problems. Highly recommended by me!

I replaced mine a year ago. I can't remember how but don't have any traumatic memories, so presumably it was simple enough. I think the user manual covers it.

do you have any links for the lamps you replaced with LEDs?

or did you just hope for the best for the ones that were lsted as 'canbus free' on ebay and amazon......?

[NotAnInterestingName]

Hello. The reversing lights are these...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000385340552.html

You need to choose the BA15S option, not the one that's the default.

These are the indicator bulbs, bought waaaay back in 2016 but still working great...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32299500151.html

There's a good chance these are now overpriced and/or there are better alternatives. They're excellent though, nice and bright plus they're the proper authentic amber colour, not yellow as some are.

I bought them for the Berllingo oriignally, the Blingo grumbled about a blown bulb if I put them in the front ones but the backs were OK. But they're fine in the DS5, so that may mean it's less fussy than some.

They also look pretty nice through the lens, plus you lose the "fried egg" effect of having amber bulbs, although the reversing ones have pale yellow bits on them.

They were sold as "canbus", which is a very techy sounding term but actually isn't relevant to canbus at all. They just have a resistor in parallel with the bulb to waste enough power to hopefully fool the computer into thinking there's an olden days bulb plugged in.

The ones I got are excellent, no issues at all. I've only ever had issues with number plate and front sidelight replacement bulbs, presumably because they're on all the time at night so they overheat. No issues with the complete replacement unit. Indicators and reversing lights are never on long enough to overheat.

Number plate light unit...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373606174416

There should be others at lower prices if you search for other Peugeot/Citroen models. Try 3008 or 406. Most will say it's not compatible, mainly as they don't know what a DS5 is. I paid £6.24 for a pair, but the listing I bought from isn't there any more. Check and double-check, if anyone thinks the listing I posted above is wrong please say - I haven't checked in detail.