Bitten off more than I can chew.

[Garej Mali]

Hello everyone, I'm in trouble... Shall I start at the beginning?

So I work on defenders and 80's classics, this car is not something I would take on but its my elderly fathers car (Peugeot 3008 13 plate 1.6 HDI SEMI AUTO and its the semi auto thats the problem

Clutch had gone and dad can't afford the garage repair bill so I said (begrudgingly) that I would do it.

Changed the whole thing, bought the Kit so swapped out the dual mass flywheel, clutch & pressure plate Also the slave cylinder. Put it all back together and realised my computer wouldn't program in the new parts/ relearn or bleed the hydraulic system. Bought the diagbox but when I try to program in the clutch and gearbox it just will not do it.

error code P0949 & P1800.

can someone link me to a "how to" or maybe help me figure out what I'm not doing correctly because at this point I think it must be user error.

I have versions 7.62 9.68 & 9.91. I've used 7.62, but not the others

Ny help would be grateful.

Lisa

[Garej Mali]

Actually I think I might need more external power to complete the programming? ill give that a go and report back with my failure lol

[GiveMeABreak]

Lisa

I'm a bit busy at present on another side of the Forum, but for a 2013 plate you really only need 7.58 or 7.62 at the latest. Make sure your laptop is not going into power saving and has enough juice in the battery.

In the meantime, pop the VIN up for this vehicle (please post your VIN in full without spaces - it will be automatically masked from public view after submitting your post & will only be visible to staff) and I'll provide specific fault code feedback when I get a minute.

[RichardW]

Def need an external power supply, jump it off something else, or battery maintainer. Need to follow the full procedure for pressurise, bleed, program, set the biting point. Did you depressure before you started, have you got enough fluid in it?

[Garej Mali]

Hello. I’m back. Thanks for your replies. I didn’t get any notification to say there’s been updates on my post. But I appreciate the time you’ve taken to help me.

The vin is this. VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

I’ve connected to another power supply that hasn’t helped.

We didn’t de pressure it, there was no pressure in it to begin with when we had gotten the car but it was full of fluid and the fluid has been replaced since the rebuild with EXT

[Garej Mali]

Actually, Ive just noticed when I re pressure the system the EXT oil is waaaaaaay above the max line, I think there was oil in the pump that hadn't been drained/depressureised. I'm just going to drop that oil. I'll be back with updates. You might just get sick of me

[GiveMeABreak]

The actuator oil is very specific, so you can't put anything in there or the system will deteriorate. Also the oil level must be checked and filled when the actuators are depressurised. Otherwise this will lead to over pressurising and I can't say what would happen in this case...

[Garej Mali]

Hiya Marc, Ive put EXT hydraulic oil in, is this not the correct actuator oil?

[GiveMeABreak]

You need one of these:

• SELENIA oil
• TUTELA CAR CS SPEED
• SAE 75W (Part number 9979A4)

[Garej Mali]

You need one of these:

• SELENIA oil
• TUTELA CAR CS SPEED
• SAE 75W (Part number 9979A4)

Oh no, when I googled the oil and researched it, it came back with EXT Hydraulic oil. I even went into GSF and asked there. The only reason why I drained the oil was because I had noticed the seal on the Hydraulic bottle was leaking, Took it off to fix and dropped the bottle and cracked it so bought a new bottle

[GiveMeABreak]

No that's not the correct stuff I'm afraid and I'm not surprised as a lot of these places are clueless when it comes to specialised oils. I'd make a complaint and get a refund based on the fact you were incorrectly advised.

It doesn't even cross reference to the PSA part and it seems like it's more for certain power steering systems (not your vehicle).

[Garej Mali]

No that's not the correct stuff I'm afraid and I'm not surprised as a lot of these places are clueless when it comes to specialised oils. I'd make a complaint and get a refund based on the fact you were incorrectly advised.

It doesn't even cross reference to the PSA part and it seems like it's more for certain power steering systems (not your vehicle).

And I guess this is likely why I cannot complete the bleeding or depressurisation of the actuator because the diagbox comes back with action terminated?

[RichardW]

I think it's unlikely the wrong oil will cause trouble in the short term, nor prevent programming. When you say no pressure when you got it, had the oil leaked out? Will it do any part of the procedure,e.g. pressurising? Does it make any noise?

[Garej Mali]

I think it's unlikely the wrong oil will cause trouble in the short term, nor prevent programming. When you say no pressure when you got it, had the oil leaked out? Will it do any part of the procedure,e.g. pressurising? Does it make any noise?

There wasn't any pressure at all, and no oil had leaked out. however, when I took the gearbox off I noticed that the hydraulic fluid had been dripping from the seal from when I had the gearbox on the transmission stand (the oil level was max when it was all in the car, I checked that, it was after when I took the gearbox out it was dripping oil) so I took the bottle off to put the o ring back into position and then dropped the bloody hydraulic bottle and had a hairline crack in it so I replaced the bottle with the exact same second hand one. this is the only reason why I needed to change the oil because I had dropped the fluid into a clean tub and then kicked the hydraulic oil across my barn floor.

I had assumed because there was no pressure in the hydraulic system at all that it pressurised with turning the key on and de pressurised when turning the key off.


Im sort of leaning to perhaps the Gearbox actuator being an issue. Although the car still isn't pressurising fully I think.

ivy taken the whole hydraulic system off this morning and now I'm going to look at the actuators on the gearbox.

thanks for helping out guys

I appreciate it

Lisa

[wheeler]

The 3 most important things when doing this procedure
1. Battery Support
2. Battery Support
3. Battery Support

Have you tried this yet as advised with another running car connected via jump leads?

I would agree the wrong oil shouldn't stop it programming.