Peugeot 107 Petrol 3 Cylinder

[Doo]

Hi all, I'm welding a friends 2007 Peugeot 107 atm and while mooching around it, I noticed the front of the engine is oily.

Is this something fixable? Reason I ask is I wonder if it is a choked crankcase breather system. I just don't know enough about htis model.

Any heads up would be helpful.

Thanks all.

Doo

[CitroJim]

Surprised to hear of a 107 needing welding... Whereabouts? How serious and how old is the car?

As for the engine, it's a Toyota/Daihatsu unit... Being fundamentally Japanese it's normally very oil-tight... Mine certainly was...

First thing, give it a good clean and then watch to see if you can identify its source...

One thing I noted on mine was the need to do the oil filler cap up tightly else oil would weep from it...

[Doo]

Surprised to hear of a 107 needing welding... Whereabouts? How serious and how old is the car?

As for the engine, it's a Toyota/Daihatsu unit... Being fundamentally Japanese it's normally very oil-tight... Mine certainly was...

First thing, give it a good clean and then watch to see if you can identify its source...

One thing I noted on mine was the need to do the oil filler cap up tightly else oil would weep from it...

The rust.... It's more rust than metal, unfortunately. I tease my mate, asking if the 1st owner parked it "in" the sea every night... It was seriously rusted around the rear axle mount area and under the sills. It's taken me six weeks of welding almost every day (I've had a total of 4 days off in those six weeks) such is the sheer amount of welding required.

However, despite the sheer amount of time spent, I'm not looking to rinse my friend. He's a lovely lad with a beautiful family and I needed to do the work to keep them safe. I asked him to pay for the materials and I've used a fair bit of welding gas, wire, grinder cutting discs, metal (I paid £140 for a sheet of 1.2 and a few offcuts of 3mm for jacking points and mounting plates for the suspension areas) and nozzles tips and gauntlets. I thought I was going to eat electricity, but it's worked out an average of 50p per day give or take. I'm very pleased with that.

Back to the oil, I think you may be right. It seems to emanate from the oil filler cap so perhaps a new "O" ring will help.

Thanks for that

[CitroJim]

I'm properly shocked by all that rust I know of one that's abandoned on a driveway near here - maybe that's the reason... Next time I run past it early in the morning I'll take a look if I can do so unobserved...

[wheeler]

Surprised to hear of a 107 needing welding... Whereabouts? How serious and how old is the car?

Remember some of these could be over 17 years old now, not really that big a surprise, it’s normally rot that finishes off Japanese cars before anything else.

[CitroJim]

I loose track of time Wheeler and still see them as quite new cars, forgetting the earliest ones I've seen are on 55 plates...

Time flies...

[daviemck2006]

I loose track of time Wheeler and still see them as quite new cars, forgetting the earliest ones I've seen are on 55 plates...

Time flies...

My sons 2012 pug 107 was scrapped earlier this year Jim, due mainly to the amount of welding it was going to need underneath. Subframe, inner sills, jacking points, suspension mounting points, and the whole floor looked like one pole with a screwdriver and it would be a hole. There was zero rust protection underneath, and the fact he worked in a quarry certainly did not help.

[CitroJim]

I loose track of time Wheeler and still see them as quite new cars, forgetting the earliest ones I've seen are on 55 plates...

Time flies...

My sons 2012 pug 107 was scrapped earlier this year Jim, due mainly to the amount of welding it was going to need underneath. Subframe, inner sills, jacking points, suspension mounting points, and the whole floor looked like one pole with a screwdriver and it would be a hole. There was zero rust protection underneath, and the fact he worked in a quarry certainly did not help.

The Ford Ka all over again

[myglaren]

A Romanian woman who lives next door to my son has a Ka, a few years old, 11 reg I think, had the current one a year, identical to the one she had previously. Both immaculate and not a sign of rust. She did her own maintenance on them. She has a garage but no room for a car in it so it stood outside in all weathers.
Another 100yds away was mainly rust and a bit of bodywork, as was my Iranian neighbour's. He never does anything with his cars though.

[mickthemaverick]

I have had two cases of severe rust on relatively new cars over the years. The first was a Mitsubishi MPV which a friend bought when it was 4 years old and asked me to check it over after she had collected it. ! Sadly the entire rear end was rusted terribly, chassis rails, hangers, axle casing, spring mounts and even the boot floor. I discovered chopped off wiring and what appeared to be mounting marks from a tow bar. I advised my friend to take the car back and get a refund which she did. When we arrived at the chap's (a trader!) house he actually apologised and confirmed that he had not even looked underneath between aquiring it and selling it on. He called the previous owner while we were there and was advised that the car had been bought new and used for four years to launch their sailing dinghy down the ramp at Marlow! Obviously it was continually immersed in the River Thames up to the back axle so the rust was not so surprising after all!!

The second one was much more recent when another friend's 6 year old C4 failed its MOT with rust throughout the chassis and had to be scrapped. The fact that there was little underbody protection was only a contributary factor. The real problem was that he leaves down the bottom of a dead end lane which has a ford between him and the main road. Thus every journey anywhere involved two dips in a varying depth river which he always believed helped keep the car clean from the continual mud along the lane!! Hmmmm!! After scrapping the C4 I advised him to get a Land Rover or similar or even consider a bailey bridge to be financed by himself and his 2 neighbours. About 6 months afterwards a bridge was installed and now he pressure washes the mud off his Lexus on Sunday mornings!!