2004 Berlingo Canbus

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2004 Berlingo Canbus

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I would like to fit a towbar and associated wiring to my 2004 Berlingo.

What is the easiest way I can determine for sure if I have a canbus system?

Thank you
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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Hi, and :welc: to the forum. Just post up the VIN so that a Moderator can look up your vehicle. The VIN will automatically be masked so only Moderators can read it.
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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Hell Razor5543 wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 20:38
Hi, and :welc: to the forum. Just post up the VIN so that a Moderator can look up your vehicle. The VIN will automatically be masked so only Moderators can read it.
Wow, Is it really as easy as that? Could a mod please confirm before I dig out the paperwork.

Thanks for the welcome
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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The Berlingo has been multiplexed since the late mk1 models around 2000 but only a basic VAN bus. The mk2 from around 2002 was fully multiplexed but with dual VAN & CAN bus.
The mk3 from around 2007 went full CAN.
Yours being a 2004 will have both VAN & CAN networks.
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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simplesimon wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 18:50
I would like to fit a towbar and associated wiring to my 2004 Berlingo.

What is the easiest way I can determine for sure if I have a canbus system?

Thank you
Citroen do a range of electrical wiring kits designed for specific models. Some have blown bulb notification units and some are 7 / 13 channel around the £100 mark if you haven't already bought one.
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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wheeler wrote:
14 Dec 2021, 10:48
The Berlingo has been multiplexed since the late mk1 models around 2000 but only a basic VAN bus. The mk2 from around 2002 was fully multiplexed but with dual VAN & CAN bus.
The mk3 from around 2007 went full CAN.
Yours being a 2004 will have both VAN & CAN networks.
Thanks. I was hoping to just tap into the existing wiring at the rear light cluster, but it sounds like that may not be possible without a wiring kit suitable for canbus then?
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
14 Dec 2021, 12:13
simplesimon wrote:
12 Dec 2021, 18:50
I would like to fit a towbar and associated wiring to my 2004 Berlingo.

What is the easiest way I can determine for sure if I have a canbus system?

Thank you
Citroen do a range of electrical wiring kits designed for specific models. Some have blown bulb notification units and some are 7 / 13 channel around the £100 mark if you haven't already bought one.
No, I haven't bought anything yet. I'm not sure what I should be buying. It seems that long gone are the days of just connecting it up to the existing wiring without a clever box. Perhaps left to a professional
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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You might want to look at the proper kit that Citroen would use. This system would not only provide the trailer lighting, it would also let the car 'know' it was towing a trailer, and adapt the ABD (and, if you have it, the ESP) to compensate.
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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Hell Razor5543 wrote:
14 Dec 2021, 15:04
You might want to look at the proper kit that Citroen would use. This system would not only provide the trailer lighting, it would also let the car 'know' it was towing a trailer, and adapt the ABD (and, if you have it, the ESP) to compensate.
To be honest, I was after a cheap solution to tow a once a year event, but looks like that is no longer possible.
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Re: 2004 Berlingo Canbus

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To rephrase the question then. Does anyone know how to wire up a towbar socket on a 2004 Berlingo?