Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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Hi,
i am about to get my engine swapped in my van, I have been told there is two different types of engines for theses vans? was wondering if anyone could tell me exactly what engine type/code it is that I need.

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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hi. does your van have 5 spd or a 6 spd gearbox?

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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You will need your vin number handy if you want a member to find your engine code/type. If the engine is original, the vin number will give the build details and date of manufacture for your van and the engine fitted.

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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On the crossmember under the bonnet you should see a couple of plates/stickers. The pop riveted plate continues the vin number, axle weight limits and, at the bottom, engine information. I have tried to attach a photo of the plate from my Ducato - your plate will be similar. My engine is a 4HV
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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] Is the VIN number

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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Thanks
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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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that is the vin shown in the window frame. the plate under the bonnet gives you more information. I am going to take a stab in the dark and assume your van is a Mk3 made after 2006. PSA (Citroen and Peugeot) used a 120 PS version of the Ford Puma engine in their cars and vans at this time, and called them HDI engines. they would have a capacity of 2198 cc, same as the 100 PS version also fitted to some vans in the whole range. Fiat used a 2287 cc Iveco engine in their 120 version of the van. So, yes, there are different versions of engines available across the range and, yes, "replacement" engines to the exact specifications are fraught with multiple issues to watch out for. I can't give you exact information about your engine specification as I no longer have access to VIN information. However, if you can't wait for someone to come back on the forum with useful information, go to a reputable motor factor, give them the VIN number and ask them to tell you which engine conversion gasket set you need for your van. That will tell you the engine type fitted to your van (and, in a lot of instances, the other vehicles this type of engine was also fitted to). Your registration number would do the same- the DVLA data base just converts reg no to vin no. The VIN number is the key to accurate information, though I know from experience it is not 100% reliable as some databases are not as complete as, say, Citroen Service Centres. Have fun!

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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Thanks a lot
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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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unfortunately not. It is missing the full engine code and body code info. The VIN number can be put into online search services and you might get a full specification returned but it again depends on how complete the online database is.

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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I would edit out/delete your photos as they give your full VIN number. You don't really want it available for all to see!

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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Found these, one on the engine mount and one on the engine that’s in the van atm, however the engine in the van isn’t the original either
Found these, one on the engine mount and one on the engine that’s in the van atm, however the engine in the van isn’t the original either
Found these, one on the engine mount and one on the engine that’s in the van atm, however the engine in the van isn’t the original either
Found these, one on the engine mount and one on the engine that’s in the van atm, however the engine in the van isn’t the original either
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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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The engine is definitely a Ford Puma - so if you are looking for an easy engine swap, you need one from either a Peugeot or a Citroen 33 120 HDI. If you want to look for other options to save money then look at some of the other vehicles this family of engines was fitted to. Beware, however, that although the same basic engine is used, just about everything and anything can be different. Before you jump in, make sure nothing else is wrong with your van before you haul your engine out. Other repairs will all add up. A straight swap is the simplest. Any mixing of models could be time consuming and costly to get right if you are not a confident/competent mechanic. Please don't ask me to recommend a source for any parts because I don't want to get that deeply involved. hope you understand

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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I have tried to find out where the engine code is stamped on your engine. It may be on a flat machined surface on the rear of the engine near the gearbox end or it may be on a flat surface on the front of the engine near the cam cover. It looks like it might be a 4HU version but I am not certain and I can't be absolutely sure. My engine is a 4HV and is a 100 PS Puma engine. Again, your vin number will reveal this if you can't find the stamped codes

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Re: Citroen Relay 2.2 33 hdi 120

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Thanks a lot will double check tomorrow after work, all I can find so far is it’s a 2007 relay 2.2 33hdi 120, not had time to check over it properly yet to find exactly what engine it needs.