e-fuel, synthetic fuel, bio-fuel still alive?

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e-fuel, synthetic fuel, bio-fuel still alive?

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Thought I would have a bit of a delve, see if I could learn something. They all seem a bit of a dead end and a retrograde step to me.

I kicked off having a look at this about e-fuels.

Definition of E-fuels
E-fuels are gaseous and liquid fuels such as hydrogen, methane, synthetic petrol, and diesel fuels generated
from renewable electricity.

The German Association of the Automotive Industry (VDA) commissioned a report published in 2017 “E-Fuels – The potential of electricity-based fuels for low emission transport in the EU”
It concluded amongst other things
Key results of the study:
E-fuels are necessary to meet the EU climate targets within the transport sector.
Even in a battery electric drive dominated scenario, the final energy demand of all transport modes in the
EU will be met with more than 70% of e-fuels in 2050. The majority of these e-fuels will be used for aviation,
shipping and freight transport.
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The theory would appear to be using "clean" renewable electricity, and turning it into a storable form, to be used in difficult to electrify sectors of transport....aviation and shipping, trucks and rail to a lesser extent.

Waiting in the wings with varying shades of blue/grey and black is the fossil fuel industry with its take on creating cleaner synthetic fuels, and hydrogen from their existing stock-in-trade oil and gas.
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This is a useful idea; a non polluting engine that is driven by a waste product from production of a different material. The engine is not powerful enough to use directly in transportation, but they already have found markets they would help in;

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technol ... r-BB1cDKKU

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One of the giants of the Energy world (previously known as the oil and gas world) Shell, has recently entered into a contract with DHL to supply their aircraft with "sustainable aviation fuel" at Schiphol Airport.

How soon before "sustainable automotive fuel" appears with a bit of marketing. :?:

Shell to supply DHL with sustainable aviation fuel

Here's the medium sized print which dilutes the sustainable claim, I suspect the small and very small print could well burst the "sustainable" bubble.
The agreement will enable DHL Express to take regular flights using SAF, an important step forward in its ambition of reducing all logistics-related emissions to zero by 2050. The volume of SAF being supplied by Shell Aviation represents a full year of DHL Express’s fuel requirements from Schiphol Airport, helping to reduce its emissions from this European hub. The SAF will be used in blended form and is made from sustainably sourced, renewable waste and residue raw materials. In its neat form and over the lifecycle it reduces greenhouse gas emissions by up to 80% compared to fossil jet fuels.
Wonder what the % sustainable the blend will be.....I would guess at 10% bit like E10 petrol which was on its way to the UK.


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Guess what.....BP do their version of Sustainable Air Fuel. It seems like SAF is the in vogue term.

They call it BP Bio Jet.
https://www.bp.com/en/global/air-bp/avi ... -fuel.html
Our sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) is called BP Biojet. It is produced from sustainable, renewable feedstocks such as used cooking oil and other wastes. SAF can drop straight in to existing infrastructure and an aircraft. It is approved for use in jet engines with no technical changes to aircraft necessary.

In 2016 we were the first operator to start commercial supply of SAF through an existing hydrant fuelling system, at Norway’s Oslo airport, under our BP Biojet brand.

Reducing greenhouse gas emissions by up to 80% over its lifecycle compared to the industry-average fossil jet fuel, BP Biojet has been supplied at 16 airports worldwide across three continents– including in Norway, Sweden, France and in the US.
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Who is most interested in alternative liquid fuels/gaseous fuels......the oil industry.

If you want "the other side of the coin" view there is no greater exponent than the American Petroleum Institute (API) and it has recently released its 2021 State of American Energy Report.
https://stateofamericanenergy.org/reports/soae-2021/
No surprises. no limits exploration, drilling, and fracking business as usual. Cut down a bit on methane escapes and oil leaks in production and processing and transport, and use a bit of Carbon Capture Utilisation and Storage to de-CO2 some processing. Burn natural gas in homes & businesses, and burn petroleum/diesel/kerosene in transport as usual with no carbon capture and storage, but try to clean it up a bit.
As the primary trade association of the oil and natural gas industry in the USA, API represents nearly 600 members involved in all aspects of petroleum and natural gas, and has its roots going back to 1919. Recently Total withdrew from the group, due to an increasing divergence between Total's aims and strategy and that of the API.
France’s Total quits powerful US oil lobby over climate policy

While the European wing of global oil and gas companies the likes of BP, Shell, and Total are reforming into Energy companies with increasing investments in renewables, the US wing remain very much business as usual oil and especially Natural gas centric.

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Boeing says it will deliver 100% biofuel planes by 2030

Well in the absence yet of a workable alternative for long haul air travel, looks like 100% biofuel will find a market.



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