C4 Picasso rear seats

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C4 Picasso rear seats

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Hi all,

I’m asking this for a friend and I haven’t even seen the car but I hope somebody may be able to help. Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn’t see.

On the Grand C4 Picasso, how do you physically remove the rearmost seats ? I know they should fold into the floor but this one has been so damaged that she’s decided to remove it completely but she’s rather daunted by the big spring that should assist the folding.

Any help gratefully received :-D

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Julian - which year is it? and please confirm this is the C4 Grand Picasso.

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Hi Marc,

Thanks for replying so quickly :-D

Doh ! Not giving year was a bit dumb as, of course, there are, at least, two models, but it’s the original version. I’m 90% certain it’s 2010 - however I can’t contact the owner at the moment to be 100%. But it is Grand C4P.

I know that on the very early ones it was a bit too easy to bend some of the mechanism.

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There's nothing more on this than what's in the owner handbook Julian. If she doesn't have that, let me know.

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Thanks Marc.

So, there’s nothing about physically unbolting it then ? Guess I’ll have to take a look ,

Turns out it’s a July 07 car.

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Ok, this is from the 2007 handbook, in case she doesn't have it.

Two rigid concertina plates, which cannot be separated from the vehicle, are arranged on each of the third-row seats.
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- If the seats are folded, the concertina plates then cover the seats and completely conceal them.
- If the third-row seats are upright, the concertina plates are folded and provide a totally flat load surface behind the seats.
- With the third-row seats upright, alternatively the concertina plates folded in the vertical position will allow objects to be stowed.

To fold the concertina plates:
Pull on the control, the 3 sections of the plate will fold concertinawise.
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To Return The Seats To The Upright Position
1. Return the second-row rigid plates to their initial position and lock them.
2. Having folded your concertina plate, pull on the control F located behind the seat backrest.
The backrest pivots rearwards, pulling the seat base with it. The seat locks in the open position.

To Stow the Third Row Seats
1. Return the second-row rigid plates to their initial position and lock them.
2. Lower the head restraints.
3. Correctly position the concertina plate vertically behind the seat.
4. Pull on the control G located at the bottom of the seat backrest. The seat unlocks.
5. Next push the backrest gently forwards. The backrest pivots, folding onto the seat base. The seat base then folds into the stowage area provided for that purpose.
6. Reposition the concertina plates over the folded seats.

Notes: Before moving the third-row seats, return the rigid plates of the second-row seats to the upright position and lock them.
Do not try to fold a third-row seat that has not first had the backrest fully locked in place.

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Hi Marc

Thanks again.

It was a good friend of mine at Citroen UK HQ who had to do all of the translation work on all the new Citroen handbooks. I know it wasn’t an easy task at times.

He’d be the first to admit that he didn’t always get it quite right (mainly when he hadn’t even seen the car sometimes !) however I don’t think he did too badly on that one.

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:-D

You should see the original X7 handbook that came with mine - it has multiple duplicate pages, but nought wrong with the translation!

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Sometime I will show you an example of one of the translations when they were done in France 🤣😳

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Hi Marc,

I said I’d share some of the slightly bizarre translations that Citroen HQ in France used to do, before the translation work was handed over to Citroen UK to handle !

How about “Huffing is not to reckon a move” :? :?

It was only when talking to an old French chap at Citroen in Paris that I discovered that the French of ‘soufflér n’est pas jouer’ used to be a phrase referring to the board game of draughts. I don’t know whether you play but in English draughts, if you don’t take your opponents piece when you can you can be ‘huffed’ and lose your piece. In France apparently the phrase ‘souffler n’est pas jouer’ was used to mean when someone did something that wasn’t quite right - there is no direct English translation so, perhaps, I can understand their difficulty but when we all saw “Huffing is not to reckon a move” we were absolute baffled !
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And I’m not quite use how ‘Une usine a courants d’air’ in a ‘Description Technique’ about Citroen’s aerodynamics became ‘A draughts factory like an haunted castle’
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And finally, I well remember in a booklet describing what the workforce did at the factory in Rennes, they described a list of functions such as painting, assembling etc but finished with......’skiving’. I decided it was probably best not to send out that booklet to the English Press !

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Classic, especially the last bit :-D - but not that British Leyland workers needed it - they were on a path to self-destruction in the 70s as it was...
Leyland Cars in the first six months of 1977 there had been 304 disputes which had led to the loss of 9,086,000 man hours and a vehicle production loss of 117,394
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Yeah, throughout the 70s I was working for a large BL dealer group and thought I could see the writing on the wall - even though they stumbled on for quite a while longer - which was why I left and had 30 years at Citroen HQ.

Still got a soft spot for much of BL though. These are mine today, love both of them.
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