E10 on its way

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E10 on its way

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https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emis ... ffect-you/

May not achieve too much....

,,,but... instead of installing/upgrading petrol pumps at every forecourt in the country which seems a bit bizarre, installing even a single electric charging point at most petrol forecourts would be some step towards avoiding the searching for a working chargepoint routine a far better "transistion" proposal.

Across the channel apparently there is this standardisation in fuel descriptions and labelling introduced in 2018.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20181011/what-y ... ump-labels

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Its it obvious from the new labels what it is? Pretty much.

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^^^ So does anyone know what Diesel XTL is without looking it up? 10 points :-D
or with looking it up? 20 points.

Yes the extra points are reward for that key ingredient in any form of education.....a natural curiosity.

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Excellent post Neil, together with the integrated links that has clarified the fuel situation very well!! Thanks.

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XTL = eXtremely Troublesome Liquid?

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How about eXclusive To Lorries? :-D

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NewcastleFalcon wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 09:52
^^^ So does anyone know what Diesel XTL is without looking it up? 10 points :-D
or with looking it up? 20 points.

Yes the extra points are reward for that key ingredient in any form of education.....a natural curiosity.

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Hell Razor5543 wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 10:07
XTL = eXtremely Troublesome Liquid?
There are 3 key pillars of learning (yes I've just invented them), knowledge, curiosity, and creativity.......30 points for creativity James!

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I had already looked it up by following your links and I would summarise it as synthetic diesel with no crude oil involvememt, but I'm happy to claim 20 for curiosity!! :-D

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A rare visit to a petrol station today to feed my bargain basement micra and yet another example of the psychological "frequency illusion" (where something that has recently come to your attention suddenly seems to appear with improbable frequency shortly afterwards.)

I noticed the (chatty) labeling of fuel at the forecourt....

So these are the easy ones E5 and B7.....now if anyone wants to go on a quest to photograph the full set...this is the thread to both post up such photos, and to receive the appropriate acknowledgement/reward.

In particular does any fuel pump in the UK actually dispense Diesel XTL, or E85 major points for ID of a location, and major major points for a photo.
nf own work B7 and E5
nf own work B7 and E5
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I think all the reading about fuels this morning befuggled my brain. I set off in the C5 to take SWMBO and her mate to Heathrow for their trip to Australia. I stopped at my usual Shell station to fill up with V-Power and looked at the new labelling to see if there was any difference between standard fuel and V-Power. Having satisfied myself that there wasn't I grabbed the E5 and, after inserting it in the filler, pulled the trigger!!! Fortunately I had only managed about 70p worth when I realised my error, stopped changed for the B7 V-Power and added a further £65.00 worth. I decided that so little shouldn't damage anything and carried on to the airport. The car is running fine so I think I got away with it but WHY did I do it? :?: I've been driving diesels for my trip away so that is not the answer, so it was either head wrecked this morning or its time to get a clockwork bev!! :-D

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Now Mick, forgive me for enjoying that story. Even if in some way my little post resulted in your befuggling, that in my book is a result! :-D

Now the what do you call them, the ergonomics brigade prerhaps, purposely put the Diesel numbers in a Square surround to further brand it in addition to the use of "B" to identify Diesel (B7)] to distinguish it from Petrol which always has a circular surround in addition to the use of "E" to identify petrol (E5). (Yes the E's mean Ethanol and the B's Biodiesel) .

Now on your trip to Spain, if only we had known, you may even have been able to get a Photo of an E85, or a B100 pump, and maybe even the holy grail a Diesel XTL pump :-D

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NewcastleFalcon wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 17:45
Now on your trip to Spain, if only we had known, you may even have been able to get a Photo of an E85, or a B100 pump, and maybe even the holy grail a Diesel XTL pump :-D
Can't recall seeing any of those here, but will now keep eyes open, FCF I-Spy book in hand.
Usual line-up is 2 x petrol, 2 x diesel.

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Well, GTL is an acronym for gas to liquid so I suppose XTL may mean X to liquid. What's X? Well that's unknown...

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There is a bit of E85 "Super Ethanol" in France, about 1000 pumps in 2018 if my translation of this is right

https://ethanol.ovh/stations-superethanol-e85/

Good old E.Leclerc seem to have it at some of their outlets.

Now for a bit of colateral knowledge gaining.....what do the French do with it?

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Paul-R wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 20:22
Well, GTL is an acronym for gas to liquid so I suppose XTL may mean X to liquid. What's X? Well that's unknown...
A SQUARE IS ALSO USED FOR “XTL” which is a type of paraffinic diesel fuel manufactured from renewable or fossil material that provides a diesel fuel by synthesis or hydrotreat-ment that is quite similar in composition to traditional fossil diesel fuel. The applicable CEN standard for XTL is EN15940. Here, “XTL” means a paraffinic diesel fuel used a neat fuel. The standard EN15940 allows the incorporation of up to 7% fatty acid methyl ester (FAME) into a paraffinic diesel fuel
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Well as of now I dont know where the derivation of the "XTL" name comes from, although your explanation tells us what it is.

I do know where the band named XTC (think "Making Plans for Nigel", "Senses working Overtime") comes from.
Wiki has it for the curious....

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