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Huskyxantia
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Picasso.

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I now have a Picasso .

It was a good deal its an 03 plate with the 2.0hdi which after advice about the reliability of this engine its what i went for.

It drives nice and having a test drive last month in the 1.6hdi there is a noticeable difference between the two.

It has silly little jobs that need doing as follows

A good deep clean to the inside
Number plate bulbs don't work so will need replacing.
All but one door locks , there's a pulse in the loom but not sure if the locking part has either come unplugged or packed up altogether.
I need to figure out how to remove the rear door card fingers crossed it won't be to hard .

The cambelt was replaced complete kit by Tate's about 35000 miles back, its mainly done motor way miles and is on a tad over 168.000 milles.

Its had the sills plated by a professional and it shows nice and neat .

I'm hoping to tackle the locking issue today
And once the weather warms up a very deep clean of the whole car too.
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Good luck with the motor..........looks a workhorse.
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lexi wrote:
10 Feb 2020, 09:48
Good luck with the motor..........looks a workhorse.
Thanks , A Lot cleaner now i deep cleaned The whole
Interior took most of Saturday just past to do, I'm surprised how smooth these are for a bigger car.

Slowly sorting out age related niggles aswell
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Anyone now the position of the crank sensor , I have niggle its on it's way out .

Power lacks sometimes not bad just starting to do it .
Today it felt like it was gonna stall pulling away from the lights . It then went ok , its a feeling I have that the sensor maybe breaking down .. Cam or crank ?

Notes to self .

Camshaft position sensor top of engine small hex bolt a small connection plug to unplug and it slides into and out the top cam area

Where to see it.

Top left side looking at the car with bonnet up back can top cover its grey in colour.

Symptoms I've had.

A rattle on acceleration is a possible sign the sensor has problems when the timing belts worn this also has at times a funny smell.

Can cut the engine out
Can be hard to start
Poor acceleration
Possible smoke


Also the win ruff key could be worn on the bottom pulley and cause the timing to appear slightly out ( the sensor thinks that ) This key and slot gives slight more space to confuse the sensors thinking.

How do you know ? My findings on this car and other models.

Solution new lower pulley £22
Win ruff key £4.
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As I understand it the Cam sensor is only used on engine starting to establish the correct phase between Crank and Cam shafts, after that it is not used. The engine will then run perfectly well with just the Crank sensor. However if the Crank sensor goes intermittent then the engine will stop immediately and it's unlikely the sensor will recover in the few hundred revs before the engine stops, to enable it to continue running. I think your problem lies elsewhere.
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The cylinder reference sensor informs the engine management ECU of the top dead centre under compression of each cylinder.
The engine management ECU needs this information to control the fuel injectors in sequential mode (cylinder by cylinder).

Other uses:
1) For the start of injection during sequential injection.
2) For the actuation signal of the solenoid valve for the pump-nozzle injection system.
3) For cylinder-selective knocking control.

A faulty camshaft position sensor can lead to starting difficulties, and can cause the engine ECU to go into a backup mode, resulting in reduce power. A related fault code will usually be restored, but yes if knackered the car won't start.
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Yes, granted it does all these things, but they are just operating strategies once it has established the crank/cam relationship at startup. After that the relationship doesn't change, there is no variable valve timing on this engine. As long as it keeps getting the signals it can calculate when it needs to do all these things. Yes, there are limited operation strategies when it loses one of these signals when running but this is usually quite obvious and accompanied by some sort of display indication to the driver. So, I think we are saying the same thing. As far as the OPs original question was concerned I just thought it unlikely that either sensor was the likely culprit and thought he ought to look for another cause.
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Huskyxantia wrote:
30 Jun 2020, 18:10
Anyone now the position of the crank sensor , I have niggle its on it's way out .

Power lacks sometimes not bad just starting to do it .
Today it felt like it was gonna stall pulling away from the lights . It then went ok , its a feeling I have that the sensor maybe breaking down .. Cam or crank ?
Look at my post here with a diagram, item (15) is what you are looking for: viewtopic.php?p=607681#p607681
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Thanks, also yesterday as I just remembered the read out that estimates how many miles left did read after £40 worth of diesel it went from just under 500miles to next fill up to 2749 miles !!!! I did laught
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deuchebleu wrote:
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Yes, granted it does all these things, but they are just operating strategies once it has established the crank/cam relationship at startup. After that the relationship doesn't change, there is no variable valve timing on this engine. As long as it keeps getting the signals it can calculate when it needs to do all these things. Yes, there are limited operation strategies when it loses one of these signals when running but this is usually quite obvious and accompanied by some sort of display indication to the driver. So, I think we are saying the same thing. As far as the OPs original question was concerned I just thought it unlikely that either sensor was the likely culprit and thought he ought to look for another cause.
Cheaper diesel ?
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The car only once has not started normal I'm using a pay at The pump tesco esso garage for fuel ( other fuel outlets available) only cos you don't have to go inside the shop and its easier to clean your hands straight after.. So it could be crap supermarket fuel My thinking of the crank sensor comes from the hdi xantia I had a while back I changed that and it made a lot of difference more power quicker starting as it was doing the same thing as the picasso and sorry to be or sound rude ... I've read tons of books over the years but nothing compares to speaking to other folks who have had and done the same things and its worked like I've done and had the results I wanted to achieve.
There's no head gasket signs too so its not that .

Cambelt kit all done 3 years ago, checking car a while back it had a full service just before I brought it.
Also I want to say thank you to this place and everyone who posts to my threads I take on board all what is said and having more than one person help is brilliant , thank you .
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Re: Picasso.

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Electronic emoblizer fault

Spelt wrong

Any advice ?
Mot next Monday ... Started this problem today
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Does it come up at key on, or only when you try and start the engine? Have you got a spare key / will it start off that?

The aerial is a common fault on these - it's a ring around the ignition lock. You would really need to Lexia it to find out what's going on however....
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RichardW wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 07:05
Does it come up at key on, or only when you try and start the engine? Have you got a spare key / will it start off that?

The aerial is a common fault on these - it's a ring around the ignition lock. You would really need to Lexia it to find out what's going on however....
Its been fine for ages then yesterday turned the key as normal lots of cranking then it came up on display so I took key out put key back in holding one button down turned the key then it started ... Got MOT this coming Monday.
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If this Ariel is the problem would it be intermittent ?
What sort of price for another and how's it sorted ?.

I did have also some leak down pipes that needed doing and did as they were split and also the fuel filter housing connecting pipes seem to need pushing back on now and again , this starting issue started last Monday (September/2020, same day i went to book the test for next Monday 5 October. Typical !