Headlight query DS5

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Headlight query DS5

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My DS5 (2012 model) headlights seems to be lacking in brightness. Maybe it's just that the roads are damp and unlit most of the time but It seems that especially on dipped beam that the road is really gloomy and difficult to see clearly.
Do the lights deteriorate over time? I think they are xenon. Can the bulbs be replaced, or even better still can they be easily replaced with any newer lights such as LED, like this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392597428687
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No - those lights will not be legal and will not work in your DS5 - forget them as they are not to be fitted in units that were not designed for them.

Yes, you do have Discharge lights fitted and they take D1S Xenon bulbs. If these are the factory fitted ones, they can be upgraded with a legal D1S bulb.

I did this with my C5 X7 - the original Osrams were slightly yellow in colour and the performance was not what I was used to. So I opted for some OSRAM Nightbreaker Unlimited Xenarc upgrades.

They are not cheap, but they provide up to 70% more light, + 20 Meters more distance and a 5% whiter light, with the same lifespan of the original OSRAM they replaced.

Here's a link to the bulbs, - they are out of stock at present (unsurprising as they have a 20% off for January)

https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/osra ... d1s-single

They are not cheap at £69.99 a bulb and must be replaced in pairs - but they are a premium bulb.
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Choice of suppliers on Amazon.uk.
One at c£30, but wonder of that item is genuine?
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I've got these on my 2013 3008. The passenger side has always been less good than the driver's side - I fitted new bulbs (Can't remember what they were) which improved things, but the passenger side is still noticeably dimmer than the drivers. I think the ballast is not working as it should - I keep meaning to sway the ballasts over to see if the dimness moves across. I'll get to it one day....
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How easy is it to change them?
Citroen say xenon bulbs have to be fitted by a qualified Citroen mechanic as there's a chance of electrocution.
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It's no harder than normal bulbs really - on the 3008 there is an odd sort of spring clip all round the bulb which is disengaged by a lever on the side. The DS5 sounds a bit different: http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/ci ... ights-ds5/ The high voltage is a bit of red herring - just make sure they are off, leave a few minutes to ensure any charge has dissipated, and make sure there is no chance they are going to come on accidentally (e.g. by someone unlocking it!)
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Lynnzer wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 08:29
How easy is it to change them?
Citroen say xenon bulbs have to be fitted by a qualified Citroen mechanic as there's a chance of electrocution.
it may be a bit tighter in the DS room wise, but essential not to touch the bulb with your fingers or skin.

Use some latex gloves 🧤 for this sort of job as it will keep any oil off the bulb which can damage or shorten the life or it.

Positioning is key, they have a ‘nest’ of metal that the new bulb and ballast goes into as a complete unit, so make sure it is properly aligned. A good idea to have a thorough look as you remove the old one before putting the new one anywhere near the fitting to prevent damage to it.

I seriously suggest you get these bulbs from approved suppliers as in the link. You can also get a list of approved retailers from Osram’s own website. Amazon and eBay are over 60% likely to be fakes! If they are too cheap they won’t be genuine ones and the quality and life will be extremely poor. This is a well known fact and getting worse since with the influx of Chinese fakes from Amazon Marketplace sellers.

Here is a link to the official OSRAM approved UK partner page that clearly shows where to buy from to ensure genuine bulbs:

https://www.nightbreaker.co.uk/approved-partners

One of the other approved partners has them a bit cheaper at £49.75

https://driven2automotive.com/d1s/806-d ... &results=3
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Just checked back in my blog - it was Nightbreakers I fitted to mine.
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The nomenclature for headlight bulbs sure is getting confusing - Osram using 'Nightbreaker' and 'Xenon' to cover both xenon-arc and traditional halogen headlight bulbs! #-o Not helpful.
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It seems Xenon is overused in a confusing manner to make something more attractive, the way "turbo" and "laser" have been for completely unrelated items, and the almost ubiquitous prefacing otherwise dismal items with "i" for no discernible reason.
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Agreed - Xenon should be used for proper Xenon HID bulbs, not the boy racer wanabes that have a dab of blue paint on the end for the 'Xenon effect' that looks total pants.