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Rustproofing - wax injection

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Sealey SG18v2.JPG
Just noticed that the rather good Sealey SG-18 wax injection/spray gun kit is currently available on Amazon at a little over half price . . .
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wiltec-Rustpro ... 0JGPVG8YSC

This usually sells for £80+.
Pressurised container, unlike a normal spray gun. Operates at 4∼6bar from a compressor.
Makes underbody application of wax quick and easy, and spray injection into sills, cavities, doors and box-sections.
For use with any of the available rustproofing waxes.
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It'd be interesting to know if that's exactly the same as the Sealey one or just a dodgy copy.
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Hmmmm, good point. It is clearly a copy (or similar product), although German not Chinese, from an established pump manufacturer, which seems to specialise in garden products. Might be worth a punt - when Amazon &/or eBay are having a sale/promotion.
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Clearly a copy? Do you that for sure?
The picture is of the genuine SG-18 (and I have one here), but if the goods don't match up, if bought from Amazon they will be refunded/replaced immediately.
At that price, assuming pukka, it is a good opportunity.
The German vendor's full details are listed by clicking them.
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.....but at no point in the advert does it say it's the Sealey SG-18. I'm not saying it isn't, but there are plenty of cheap copies of Sealey / Clarke / other well known brands for sale these days. Buyer beware !
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Sealey ones are just good China produced stuff as well. I would not be surprised if it is exactly the same product just with a different sticker.
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This is always worth a re-post when the subject of wax injection comes up.... 8-) :lol:

Waxoyling...
I really wanted to get some of this into the Land Rover's chassis before I started using it. I had gone to halfords and bought 2 gallons, and knocked off work early.
I also had the real benefit that SWMBO was out so I had since 3.00pm been shoving the 2 gallon cans into the sink with near boiling water. I should have known things were going to go “slightly wrong” when I started.
I decided to use a Waxoil gun and my compressor, I had the propane burner on in the workshop since 3.00pm flat out and it was like the sahara, in fact it was so hot I decided a T-shirt and shorts was the dress code.
Grabbing some white spirit to further thin the waxoil I entered the kitchen and unscrewed the waxoil lid.
Thhhhuuuumpppppppp !…grwat big snotty big dollop spewed out over the kitchen worksurface... no probs I thought, ...I’ll sort that out when I’ve finished, as I might make "a little bit more mess yet".... glad she's not in.
Clutching hot waxoil injector thingy, part filled with waxoil and mixed with very very warm white spirit I squirted and soaked the chassis blasting away, and also practising holding my breath as it went misty in the workshop.
1 Gallon later I was nearly there, I was at the rear cross member, with yet another huge refill.
I ought to point out that I had also decided that at some of the angles I was at pulling and holding the trigger was a pain so I had devised a cunning lock of an elastic band on the trigger so that I could let it do it things whilst it sprayed away. Shove tube into hole and pull trigger… lock and waggle etc.
Enter the cat.
It sat there and looked at me the way only a cat can... it sniffed (unapprovingly) the dripped waxoil, and I said…
“Huh, you don’t want to be in here matey, this stuff will stick to your fur like brown stuff to a blanket”……and at that very point the jammed on tube extension came off the gun.
Could I release the elastic band round the trigger ? Could I XXXXXX.
The gun squirted warm waxoil/white spirit out at a force never so far experienced, one particularly good jet hit the cat, who bolted, knocking over the 2/3 empty (1/3 full!!) can of hot waxoil/white spirt mix, which flowed oh so well under the landy, and into my clothes T shirt and clothes and skin areas exposed..., but I was still fighting with the hot octopus trying to switch the damned thing off, but I failed, I was saved when it ran out.
Just when I thought nothing could get worse than lying under a Land Rover with waxoil soaked clothes, waxoil dripping onto my hair and face, and running into my ears... Some waxoil drpped onto the lead lamp... ping... Blackness.
It also pinged the fuse for the lighting circuit, getting myself out of the underneath of the landy proved friutfull, in that I knew all the places that waxoil had “leaked”.
Removing dripping clothes I entered house in “minimal Clothes” to resolve fuse prob, when Lights went on I saw the cat…
I AM GOING TO DIE IF SHE SEES THIS !
Here Puddie cattie……
This did not improve the sink/kitchen area one little jot, .....ever tried holding a 'waxoiled cat' in a sink with water and rags, and especially when cat does not enjoy it ?
1 hour later cat was scrubbed and very peed off with me, I’ve had 2 baths, and also cleaned the bath it seems that the bath will not be rusty...scrubbed kitchen floor, sink, worktop
Will she notice?
Cat stinks, garage sticks, alley way stinks, I stink, kitchen smells of lemon washing up liquid, which strangely we seem to nearly be out of, floor stinks.
She will be back any minute [gulp]. Nice job on the Landy tho....... ))
...later that evening...... Alleyway door closes and SWMBO walks in..... "have a nice time dear ?......." "what the HELL is that smell ?"
"Smell ?....er do you mean the waxoil ?" "Is that what it is - its disgusting" "Er..really"....
"yes really, the alleyway stinks, I mean I could smell it when I got out of the car..."
"er...really ?"
"yes, Really, I mean its stinking everywhere out, its even permutated the house " "really"
"yes really and [ picks up cat - I look away at telly and pray]...and ....good grief even the cat smells of it its ....[ at this point the cat growls.....probably hand enough of being "handled" during the evening...]..."WELL if your going to be like that madam you grumpy old thing" ...[places cat down firmly - cat grumbles some more].. cat exits still grumbling
"Charming... well... Anyway, have you finished?"
THOUGHTS...............
I've got away with it...."all done"...I've got away with it...."think I'll have a beer"...I've got away with it....I've got away with it...."Would you like a glass of wine ?"....I've got away with it....yippee....I've got away with it....and
SHE'S GOT THE HUMP WITH THE CAT TOO - NOT ME !!
Beer.... Bed.... RESULT....... !
But a bit close for comfort......far to close
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⇈⇈ That seems awfully familiar :)
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There's several of those guns available on eBay at the moment, one selling at £40 if you use the 20% off eBay voucher available at the moment (only some sellers). Just search 'rustproofing gun'.
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Only had the air hose come off the belt regulator connector while spraying paint, flails around a bit until you unplug the other end, refit connector, but far less dramatic than the description above :rofl2:
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bobins wrote: 05 Dec 2019, 09:02 .....but at no point in the advert does it say it's the Sealey SG-18. I'm not saying it isn't, but there are plenty of cheap copies of Sealey / Clarke / other well known brands for sale these days. Buyer beware !
You are right, Bobins.
That injector gun is sold under numerous 'own labels', usually between £80 and £150, sometimes more.
Sealey SG-18 is probably the best known, but Clarke, Draper et al may well have theirs too.
I did look at ours (Sealey) to see where it was made; it doesn't say, and neither does the user instructions with it.
If you can get hold of one of the same at that price, it's a snip.
Was almost tempted to get one for Simon for Christmas... :wink:
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I will let you all know if you missed out on this.....when my packet of Chinese pot alloy turns up :)
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Good man! \:D/
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white exec wrote: 05 Dec 2019, 07:32 Clearly a copy? Do you that for sure?
The picture is of the genuine SG-18 (and I have one here)
Well the Amazon link takes you to a "WilTec Spray Gun"

Don't doubt it looks the same - but then it would if it was made by same company in China, not necessarily to the same standard.
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A Google Image search has many identical listed as Sealey
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