Accident damaged Berlingo abs fault

[greenclaws75]

Hi all, help needed please from more knowledgeable folk!

I recently purchased a 2016 Berlingo 1.6 hdi with front end damage. Unfortunately the plug that connects to the abs pump was damaged so that the pins were pulled out of the circuit board. Abs and stability control/traction control? light is lit and the touch screen reports a brake fault.

I managed to find a replacement abs pump from a Citroen Picasso but it has different numbers on the abs ecu.265 951 525 & 99001 s0174.

The van eventually went into 'economy mode' and refused to even try to start with the damaged ecu fitted. It now starts fine with the Picasso ECU plugged in but is still showing an abs fault...

On the original Berlingo ECU the part numbers are 2265106515 0265956416

Would it be possible to code this ecu to the Berlingo van - I bought this hoping it will do the job ..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FULL-Chip-Lex...2749.l2649

I have an ancient windows xp laptop that I'm hoping will run this. Heard stories about the installation being a nightmare and my computer skills aren't great!

Am I just wasting my time and do I need to find a matching numbers ecu ?

Thanks in anticipation of any replies, all help appreciated

[Hell Razor5543]

Hi, and to the forum. To help make sure you are getting the right parts could you please post your VIN here (it will automatically be obscured so only Forum staff can read it). Then a Moderator can tell you what parts are compatible with your car.

[greenclaws75]

Thank you Hell Razor. My vin is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] that would be great

[GiveMeABreak]

No. you can't just replace ABS pumps and expect them to work. Yes, they need to be coded if changing the ECU, but they also need to be the correct one for the vehicle.

You need part number 4541JC (that was superseded by 4541SN). This is a Bosch ESP 9.0

[greenclaws75]

No. you can't just replace ABS pumps and expect them to work. Yes, they need to be coded if changing the ECU, but they also need to be the correct one for the vehicle.

You need part number 4541JC (that was superseded by 4541SN). This is a Bosch ESP 9.0

Thanks Mark.

I don't suppose you know which other vehicles are fitted with the ESP 9.0 version and will these work on the Berlingo ? Am I right in that the Citroen part numbers are 2265106516 & 0265956416 and these both have to match for the ecu to be configured to work properly ?.

Unfortunately I have damaged the circuit board beyond repair so refurbishment isn't an option

[GiveMeABreak]

No the Citroen (PSA) part numbers are what I listed in my last post. If you find a longer 10 digit number that begins 98, then that will be the manufacturer number which you can also search on. The other 2 numbers are likely to be versions of firmware / software.

[greenclaws75]

No the Citroen (PSA) part numbers are what I listed in my last post. If you find a longer 10 digit number that begins 98, then that will be the manufacturer number which you can also search on. The other 2 numbers are likely to be versions of firmware / software.

I have 98 111 483 80 on the valve block which seems to be undamaged . If I can find a matching serial number block would I be guaranteed that the ECU would be compatible ?

Provided I can find a 4541JC/4541SN BOSCH ESP 9.0 would that work (presumably only the software can be changed by PP2000 so the firmware version would have to be identical ? )

I took a photo of my ecu - I can only find a matching ecu on Polish websites. I presume Citroen dealers would want an arm and both legs even if they sell the ecu separately..

Sorry about so asking so many questions !

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok, so 9811148380 is the number you need to focus on. Remove the spaces and when searching use 'Citroen 9811148380' (without the inverted commas) and you may get more results.

Cautionary note: Ignore the white sticker reference numbers on the label stuck on the round silver metallic part - as can be seen in one of the photos on this link. That number is only valid and used in the assembly phase and not for any part reference!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2017-PEUGEOT ... SwDCFdkfn1

[greenclaws75]

Ok, so 9811148380 is the number you need to focus on. Remove the spaces and when searching use 'Citroen 9811148380' (without the inverted commas) and you may get more results.

Cautionary note: Ignore the white sticker reference numbers on the label stuck on the round silver metallic part - as can be seen in one of the photos on this link. That number is only valid and used in the assembly phase and not for any part reference!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2017-PEUGEOT ... SwDCFdkfn1

Thanks for the link Sir Marc, the later pumps seem scarce. What is the 0265 258 366 number?..on my ecu in the same place I have 0 265 244 988 ?

The seller says the numbers for the software and firmware versions are the same as on mine

[GiveMeABreak]

Those are likely to be software / firmware levels. You can't update the these with a Lexia, as you will need access to PSA servers and that will deactivate your Lexia clone. But they units can be coded to the vehicle if needed. I can't tell you exactly what information you need - but if you have Lexia / Diagbox and can currently communicate with the ABS ECU, then I would go into the module and take a screenshot of the current parameters in case the ones from the second hand replacement are different.

[greenclaws75]

Unfortunately the abs ecu plug broke off in the accident so no chance of retrieving any data.

Would a Citroen dealer be able to retrieve and program the correct values if needed?.

Thanks again much appreciated!

[doctle]

not cheap but 3 units on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from ... C&_sacat=0

[GiveMeABreak]

NO! They are using the PSA part number, but the long number is incorrect and is not the same as the one on the OPs module, risking incompatibility with the vehicle options. Those listings quote: 9674663580, which is not the same as 9811148380!

[GiveMeABreak]

Unfortunately the abs ecu plug broke off in the accident so no chance of retrieving any data.

Would a Citroen dealer be able to retrieve and program the correct values if needed?.

Thanks again much appreciated!

There are various options that need to be set correctly, (more for ESP systems), such as type of gearbox, tyre sizes etc. but I can't tell you exactly what these are as these will vary with the vehicle and options present. Bear in mind that a second hand unit will already have its ECU configured for the donor vehicle.

That's why it is so important to get a matched part to eliminate as much incompatible or incorrect data as possible.

If you don't have access to Lexia with Diagbox a dealer should be able to download the configuration file for you - but will charge diagnostic time to do this.

[greenclaws75]

Unfortunately the abs ecu plug broke off in the accident so no chance of retrieving any data.

Would a Citroen dealer be able to retrieve and program the correct values if needed?.

Thanks again much appreciated!

There are various options that need to be set correctly, (more for ESP systems), such as type of gearbox, tyre sizes etc. but I can't tell you exactly what these are as these will vary with the vehicle and options present. Bear in mind that a second hand unit will already have its ECU configured for the donor vehicle.

That's why it is so important to get a matched part to eliminate as much incompatible or incorrect data as possible.

If you don't have access to Lexia with Diagbox a dealer should be able to download the configuration file for you - but will charge diagnostic time to do this.

Thanks Sir Marc, Ebay abs pump ordered now I'd never have found it without your help . Citroen wanted £536+ vat plus for a new abs pump , £40 diagnostic charge plus £114 to bleed the brakes

It looks like the donor vehicle was a similar model to mine with ESP but a 2017 model not a 2016. If the ecu is configured with the wrong options will it throw up a fault code ?. Will it need to go on Lexia to check the replacement pump in as a new part.. if they are all coded uniquely in some way?