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All I would say is that the difference is most noticeable in terms of engine condition and oil cleanliness but it only happens gradually over a long period of consistent use. Using the odd tank here and there may well help with injector cleaning etc. as Marc finds but the real benefits only come to light with consistent use for 5000 miles plus.!Michel wrote: 11 Jan 2020, 18:55 Over the years I've used many "premium" fuels and come to the conclusion they're all b*****ks. Not a single one has made any appreciable difference.
But how do we know? Do you strip your motors down after so long check?mickthemaverick wrote: 11 Jan 2020, 19:40All I would say is that the difference is most noticeable in terms of engine condition and oil cleanliness but it only happens gradually over a long period of consistent use. Using the odd tank here and there may well help with injector cleaning etc. as Marc finds but the real benefits only come to light with consistent use for 5000 miles plus.!Michel wrote: 11 Jan 2020, 18:55 Over the years I've used many "premium" fuels and come to the conclusion they're all b*****ks. Not a single one has made any appreciable difference.![]()
I only know from the oil colour which definitely is much cleaner at oil changes than it used to be on leaded 4* and from the general lack of any form of engine faults occurring. I have never suffered valve issues or bigend wear for example in any of the cars, including a few very high mileage ones, since I have been using it. It is only personal experience which leads me to my conclusion and I would say that while the mpg is definitely improved, the mpp (miles per poundMichel wrote: 11 Jan 2020, 20:08
But how do we know? Do you strip your motors down after so long check?
It even states in my Yamaha MT-09 owners manual *not* to use premium fuels as the engine isn't mapped for them.
I should think that modern oils and tolerances have a lot to do with that, rather than the fuel - it's 21 years since leaded 4* was available for sale here and 27 years since one could buy a car without a catalytic converter.mickthemaverick wrote: 11 Jan 2020, 20:25 I only know from the oil colour which definitely is much cleaner at oil changes than it used to be on leaded 4* and from the general lack of any form of engine faults occurring. I have never suffered valve issues or bigend wear for example in any of the cars