Hello,
I am currently converting my RHD Peugeot 1007 to LHD, for use in Portugal.
I understand that it is not worth it financially, but I am doing it as a project, for my own enjoyment.
From my understanding, all Peugeots are built LHD spec and awkwardly converted to RHD for the UK market. For example, the brake master cylinder is already on the left hand side, and RHD cars have a long bar running behind the dashboard to actuate the brakes.
I have got a LHD dashboard (including cable harness) from a scrapped car, and also a refurbished JTEKT LHD steering rack.
I have a few questions:
Does anyone know if the main wiring loom needs to be replaced with a LHD version, or can they just be moved around a bit?
Can the pedals be moved over, or do I need a LHD pedal box?
Do I need a LHD steering column?
Is there a workshop manual available for the 1007?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
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GiveMeABreak
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
Hi and welcome.
Yes, you need a LHD Steering Column.
Yes you need a different Pedal box
Yes, there are both left and right hand drive INTERMEDIATE Harnesses
In addition there are 4 each LHD / RHD fascia harnesses depending on equipment and electronic architecture your original vehicle has.
a lot of the parts are no longer available new, but you'll need to post up your VIN if you want the correct part numbers for LHD equivalents.
Yes, you need a LHD Steering Column.
Yes you need a different Pedal box
Yes, there are both left and right hand drive INTERMEDIATE Harnesses
In addition there are 4 each LHD / RHD fascia harnesses depending on equipment and electronic architecture your original vehicle has.
a lot of the parts are no longer available new, but you'll need to post up your VIN if you want the correct part numbers for LHD equivalents.
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.
Marc
Marc
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white exec
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
You will have a huge number of questions about parts variance between LHD and RHD versions of the car.
Would be a good move to open up for yourself an account with Service Box (service.citroen.com - covers Cit, Peu and DS), using the category of Independent Repairer.
This will allow you to indentify which parts are common to the versions, and which are decicated.
A parts donor car (i.e. scrapped/damaged LHD 1007) will likely provide many of the parts, provide a fitting guide, and save a fortune.
Would be a good move to open up for yourself an account with Service Box (service.citroen.com - covers Cit, Peu and DS), using the category of Independent Repairer.
This will allow you to indentify which parts are common to the versions, and which are decicated.
A parts donor car (i.e. scrapped/damaged LHD 1007) will likely provide many of the parts, provide a fitting guide, and save a fortune.
Chris
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Peugeot1007
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
Thanks for your help GiveMeABreak and white exec.
The VIN is VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff].
It's a 1.6 petrol Sport 2-Tronic Auto, with automatic climate control and no satnav (just the normal little clock and info screen). No other options like heated seats, cruise control, parking sensors or bluetooth/steering wheel controls.
Regarding Service Box, which option should I choose out of:
- Professional motor repairer
e.g. : Repairers, Independents, Bodyshops
- Other professional motor repairer
eg : garage equipment manufacturers, bodyshops, ....
- Other professionals except Emergency services etc.
e.g. : Administrations, Fleets
- Assistance and First Aid
e.g. Fire service, Police, Emergency services…
- Private individual
I went to the local Peugeot dealer in Portugal. They were helpful, but understandably did not want too much liability.
The part numbers they gave me were:
Steering Column - 4123Q8
Pedal Box - 4500E9
Other Pedal Part (Not sure what) - 4501T2
Harness - 6513ZW
I am not sure if these are the correct LHD numbers. They just put my VIN into a computer, so it may have given RHD part numbers.
I already have the dash, dash harness and steering rack.
Cheers.
The VIN is VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff].
It's a 1.6 petrol Sport 2-Tronic Auto, with automatic climate control and no satnav (just the normal little clock and info screen). No other options like heated seats, cruise control, parking sensors or bluetooth/steering wheel controls.
Regarding Service Box, which option should I choose out of:
- Professional motor repairer
e.g. : Repairers, Independents, Bodyshops
- Other professional motor repairer
eg : garage equipment manufacturers, bodyshops, ....
- Other professionals except Emergency services etc.
e.g. : Administrations, Fleets
- Assistance and First Aid
e.g. Fire service, Police, Emergency services…
- Private individual
I went to the local Peugeot dealer in Portugal. They were helpful, but understandably did not want too much liability.
The part numbers they gave me were:
Steering Column - 4123Q8
Pedal Box - 4500E9
Other Pedal Part (Not sure what) - 4501T2
Harness - 6513ZW
I am not sure if these are the correct LHD numbers. They just put my VIN into a computer, so it may have given RHD part numbers.
I already have the dash, dash harness and steering rack.
Cheers.
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GiveMeABreak
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
Yes, they will have specified what you already have!
Leave it with me for a few minutes and I'll work out the correct ones - it might take you longer if you are not familiar with the system.
Leave it with me for a few minutes and I'll work out the correct ones - it might take you longer if you are not familiar with the system.
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.
Marc
Marc
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GiveMeABreak
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
Here are a few of the replacement parts - it can get quite complicated due to the build dates and the options for your car.
Don't forget the steering rack is also different.... Are you sure this is a good idea?
Original Pedal Bracket: 4500E9
(GEARBOX MA PILOTE AND PEDAL ALUMINIUM AND RIGHT HAND DRIVE SINCE RPO 11417)
Original Brake Pedal: 4501T2
Replacement Pedal Bracket: 4500F6
(GEARBOX MA PILOTE AND PEDAL ALUMINIUM AND LEFT HAND DRIVE SINCE RPO 11416)
Replacement Brake Pedal: 4501T6
Original Fascia Harness: 6565XP (9657263680)
(RIGHT HAND DRIVE AND WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER EXCEPT MULTIPLEXING ASSEMBLY CAN CAN)
Original Intermediate Wiring Harness: 6513ZW
(WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER AND DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG UNTIL RPO 10583)
ReplacementFascia Harness: 6565VT (9652731480)
ReplacementIntermediate Wiring Harness: 6513ZQ
Original Steering Column: 4123Q8
Replacement Steering Column: 4123Q7
Don't forget the steering rack is also different.... Are you sure this is a good idea?
Original Pedal Bracket: 4500E9
(GEARBOX MA PILOTE AND PEDAL ALUMINIUM AND RIGHT HAND DRIVE SINCE RPO 11417)
Original Brake Pedal: 4501T2
Replacement Pedal Bracket: 4500F6
(GEARBOX MA PILOTE AND PEDAL ALUMINIUM AND LEFT HAND DRIVE SINCE RPO 11416)
Replacement Brake Pedal: 4501T6
Original Fascia Harness: 6565XP (9657263680)
(RIGHT HAND DRIVE AND WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER EXCEPT MULTIPLEXING ASSEMBLY CAN CAN)
Original Intermediate Wiring Harness: 6513ZW
(WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER AND DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG UNTIL RPO 10583)
ReplacementFascia Harness: 6565VT (9652731480)
ReplacementIntermediate Wiring Harness: 6513ZQ
Original Steering Column: 4123Q8
Replacement Steering Column: 4123Q7
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.
Marc
Marc
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Peugeot1007
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
Wow! Thank you very much. That is really helpful.
Yes, the steering rack I have bought is a refurbished LHD model.
My car is a 2005 model.
I think I might be leaning towards buying a non-running donor car (as white exec mentioned earlier). So I can just copy it's setup. All the 1007s in Portugal are diesel, but the parts I am changing should all be universal to petrol/diesel cars.
As far as good ideas go, it is probably not up there with the best. But I enjoy doing this kind of thing, and I have had it since new and it is in very good condition with only 30,000 miles.
Cars in Portugal are extremely expensive, and I would not be able to get a quality automatic, low mileage car for less than €7,500.
Yes, the steering rack I have bought is a refurbished LHD model.
My car is a 2005 model.
I think I might be leaning towards buying a non-running donor car (as white exec mentioned earlier). So I can just copy it's setup. All the 1007s in Portugal are diesel, but the parts I am changing should all be universal to petrol/diesel cars.
As far as good ideas go, it is probably not up there with the best. But I enjoy doing this kind of thing, and I have had it since new and it is in very good condition with only 30,000 miles.
Cars in Portugal are extremely expensive, and I would not be able to get a quality automatic, low mileage car for less than €7,500.
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white exec
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
When registering on Service Box, go for
Professional motor repairer, Independent
[Private individual will block you out - not available to general public.]
and fill in as many of the fields as you are able, and then set password.
IIRC, it takes a day or so for account confirmation to come back (but it's been a long time since I did this).
Note down your ID, and use that and your pwd to get in.
You can choose any model you want info on, or enter a VIN (which the system will remember, for future use).
By hitting Characteristics (after putting in a VIN), you can get a full listing of what was on the car ex-factory.
Mechanics Handbooks will throw up a list of useful down-loadable repair data (also available on this site).
If you input a part number in the Search box, you can get a listing of all cars that that item was fitted to, by hitting 'Search on other vehicles'.
It's all good stuff.
Some sections are chargeable (eg repair info), but you can just ignore those.
Items marked NFP (no further production) are just that - no longer available from PSA - but do allow you to look elsewhere, using the part numbers.
The RPO (RP, ORGA) number (at the top of the Characteristics page, and also on the car, somewhere) is important, as it allows you to select the correct part where these changed over time.
RPO advances by one digit every production day, so an RPO fixes the exact day a car was built. Google "RP decoder", and you'll find several web pages where you can input yours, and get its ex-factory date.
Professional motor repairer, Independent
[Private individual will block you out - not available to general public.]
and fill in as many of the fields as you are able, and then set password.
IIRC, it takes a day or so for account confirmation to come back (but it's been a long time since I did this).
Note down your ID, and use that and your pwd to get in.
You can choose any model you want info on, or enter a VIN (which the system will remember, for future use).
By hitting Characteristics (after putting in a VIN), you can get a full listing of what was on the car ex-factory.
Mechanics Handbooks will throw up a list of useful down-loadable repair data (also available on this site).
If you input a part number in the Search box, you can get a listing of all cars that that item was fitted to, by hitting 'Search on other vehicles'.
It's all good stuff.
Some sections are chargeable (eg repair info), but you can just ignore those.
Items marked NFP (no further production) are just that - no longer available from PSA - but do allow you to look elsewhere, using the part numbers.
The RPO (RP, ORGA) number (at the top of the Characteristics page, and also on the car, somewhere) is important, as it allows you to select the correct part where these changed over time.
RPO advances by one digit every production day, so an RPO fixes the exact day a car was built. Google "RP decoder", and you'll find several web pages where you can input yours, and get its ex-factory date.
Chris
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Peugeot1007
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
Thanks white exec. I'm all signed up to Service Box, it will be incredibly useful.
Question regarding the front seats. Can I just leave them as they are, or will it cause airbag problems? I know that the Driver's seat has height adjust and the Passenger's seat doesn't, but that won't be a problem.
Question regarding the front seats. Can I just leave them as they are, or will it cause airbag problems? I know that the Driver's seat has height adjust and the Passenger's seat doesn't, but that won't be a problem.
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Jay-Bruce
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Re: Peugeot 1007 LHD Conversion
If you are doing an LHD conversion, can I scrounge your RHD steering rack, assuming postage isn't going to be prohibitive?