Citroen C5 Mk3 Wipers not working

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Citroen C5 Mk3 Wipers not working

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Hi all, I have an 09 Citroen C5 Mk3 Estate that has recently had problems with the wipers. They stopped working one day so I checked the fuses and everything seemed fine, took it to the garage. At the garage they started working again, then stopped. The garage had a look through and said fault code was the wiper motors weren't talking to each other. We replaced the drivers side wiper motor with a brand new part which didn't resolve the problem so they then suggested replacing the left hand motor.

I took the car from the garage as I didn't want to throw any more money at the problem without first having a look through forums etc. On my drive home the wipers started working again, continued to do so until I got home and killed the engine.

A few weeks before all this my steering wheel seemed to be making a noise when turned, almost as if there was a wire inside being snagged or something of the sort. I did tell the garage this but I don't think they have opened up the wiper switch as a friend had a look and it still has a temper sticker on.

Before I commit another £120 for a second hand left side wiper motor wondering if anyone has any other advice or experience, I personally feel if the left wiper motor was the issue the right hand side would still work fine (as it's dominant) and it wouldn't work intermittently as it has been. On opening up the left hand side wiper motor I couldn't see any water damage or anything like that either.

Also does anyone know how to check compatibilities of the wiper motors on eBay? I don't want to accidentally order a wrong part but don't want to spend £300 on a brand new motor either.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Citroen C5 Mk3 Wipers not working

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Have a read of this read:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59504&hilit=Wiper+motor

Plenty of info here and with some links to other posts and there is also a video there. Post your VIN up here so we can check the part numbers, but I suspect hey are already the ones in the thread I linked to for the X7.

The wiper motors each have an ECU and are in a Master Slave configuration. Sometimes the knee no working is not necessarily the faulty one...

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Hi, thanks for the reply. The link was really useful, still unsure if it's my switch or the left hand side motor but that's cars for you haha. My VIN number is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

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Ok, 2 things - part numbers are below, but I have checked on a recall database and as you can see from the picture below (click to zoom it up), your VIN was within the affected range of recalls for a failing wiper motor. So even though I have entered it on the recall website and it is not returning anything (I believe the VOSA system is useless), sure enough it would seem that using another search that it is is within the range of affected vehicles:

*****9L518753 to
*****9L541864

Your VIN: *****9L535025

So I would definitely tell them your VIN is within the range of recalls as listed on the R/2011/032 recall notice.
Wind Recall.PNG
Confirmed these are the same part numbers.

Part 6405LE (Left side / UK Passenger side)
Part 6405LA (Right side / UK Driver side)

These retail at £323.75 each inc. VAT. from Citroen.

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Thank you, the garage said they had enquired about the product recall but Citroen claimed it wasn't in. I will definitely be chasing this up with them.

Replacing the driver's side motor hasn't fixed the issue though so not sure if they will do anything?

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It will likely be one or the other motor - usually Diagbox will report the one that needs doing. But as I mentioned in the other threads - it is not always the obvious one. Do chase up the recall - I can't see how they can deny it when it is listed with your VIN in the range and bnot only that but that you are having the issues mentioned!

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Contacted Citroen who confirmed the car had work done in 2011 under the recall already so is no longer eligible. Back to square one, going to try source a left motor to try first hand. Thanks for the help though Marc, learnt a lot reading through the forum

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Ok, good luck, at least you know one was replaced at some point.

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Hi, any advice on how to check which wiper motor is at fault? On My C5 2.0 HDI estate 2009 the wiper acted crazy then stopped altogether just as the rain started this week.
I've read that it could be the LH side(I presume as your sitting in the car looking forward)
How do you gain access to them to replace them or it?

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Read through the threads - you need to get it on Lexia to determine which one is at fault.

Here's a link to a member's video who changed his:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59504&hilit=Wiper+m ... 15#p569314

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Thanks for the info. Do you know of any members in the Nottingham/Derby area with Lexia who could do the diagnostics for me, I'm willing to pay some beer tokens?

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Check the link here for members with Lexia kits:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=56452

There is a link to a Google map at the end of the list that shows the members pinned on a map. Contact them via a Private Message, but be aware that not all of them are active all the time, so it may take a while for a response.

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Re: Citroen C5 Mk3 Wipers not working

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Cheers Marc, much appreciated. Beechy