C5 - change of tailgate

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C5 - change of tailgate

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Hi. A friend of mine has a damaged tailgate on his mk2 C5 tourer

He has found a replacement on eBay that is even in the right colour...

Will we have any issues swapping the two over?

Will the boot lock still work ok - we aren't sure where the 'identity' lives?

Thank you very much
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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As there's no key for the boot, you shouldn't have any problems. The locking and unlocking is done electronically once the transponder chip code handshakes with the BSI. The BSI then authorises the locking / unlocking.
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Thank you very much for your quick reply Marc. That was the conversation we had, so its good to know we weren't talking complete rubbish this time.... Best regards, Simon
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No problems, if you want the removal refitting info, let me know the car year.
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Cheers Marc. It’s a 58 plate :)
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Aaah a MK III (X7)! Ok, leave it with me, there's quite a few electronics, edge sensors in there for the electric tailgate (if you have this model), including the struts that are not standard, so caution is advised. I'll get the procedure up shortly, but do you have your VIN - as that will determine other fittings and whether I need to include these when getting the right procedures. (VIN is automatically masked from public view).
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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I have just asked him to send me the reg and VIN... watch this space. I am sure, )from ageing memory) that it's a manual tailgate tho...

Thanks again for your help - much appreciated!
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Either one will do as I can get the VIN from the Reg.
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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It's VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] :)
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Ok, that's cool, I've replaced Reg with VIN for future referral in case it's needed again. So confirmed as not having motorised tailgate and non-panoramic roof. Give me a while and check back later. :wink:
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Ok, so here's the guide, and a note for others, this is for an X7 Tourer without motorised Tailgate.

Disconnect the battery.
Rear Pillar Trim A.PNG
Tailgate Strut A.PNG
Unclip the rear pillar trim (3) (at "x","z") using a trim removal tool.
Detach: The rear pillar trim (3) ( as "y", "aa").
Remove the rear pillar trim (3).
Remove the bolts (1).
Tailgate Strut B.PNG
Tailgate Strut C.PNG
Unclip: Detach the hinge pin (3) at "a" (following the arrow ), using a trim removal tool.Unclip the clips ( as "c").
Uncouple: The wash-wipe pipe ( as "b").
Remove the tailgate spoiler (2).

Refitting
Position: The tailgate spoiler (2).
Couple up: The wash-wipe pipe ( as "b").

Clip:
  • The clips ( as "c")
  • The hinge pin (3) following "a"
Refit:
  • The bolts (1) ; Tighten to 0,4 ± 0,1 daN.m
  • The tailgate trim
Reconnect the battery.
Tailgate
Tailgate A.PNG
Tailgate B.PNG
Open the flap (1).
Immobilise the lock.
Disconnect the connectors ( as "b") (According to equipment).
Unclip: The harness (2) ( as "a"), using a trim removal tool.
Unclip : The sleeve (3), using a trim removal tool.
Release the harness (2).
Tailgate C.PNG
Tailgate D.PNG
N.B.: Operation requiring two people.
Unclip the stabiliser (4) clips (5), using a small screwdriver.
Close the tailgate (1).
Remove:
  • The bolts (6)
  • The flap (1)
Refitting
Proceed in the reverse order to removal.
Reconnect the ancillaries battery.
Unjam the lock.
Tailgate E.PNG
Tailgate F.PNG
Adjustment
Pre-tighten the bolts (6).
Adjust fits and clearances ( as "c", "d", "e", "f").
If necessary, the adjustment of the tailgate can be supplemented by adjustment of the tailgate hinges (7).
Drive out the indexing point (8), using a pin drift.
Adjust fits and clearances ( as "c", "d", "e", "f"), using the bolts (6), (9) and the tailgate stops.
Tighten the bolts (6),(9) to 1,5 ± 0,4 daN.m.
Check the electrical operation of the equipment.
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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Thank you so much Marc. My chumlie Mike repeats that too....

Great help! Cheers and HNY Simon
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Re: C5 - change of tailgate

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No worries, best of luck with the job :-D