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cutting spare keys

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Hi all,
My car came with only one set of keys - and I'm one of those people who is prone to misplace stuff so I'd like to have a spare set cut and stashed away somewhere.
The door key looks fairly generic but the ignition key seems a bit unique in that it's fairly thick for its overall size - would a corner locksmith have a blank to cut these keys from or do I need to order Citroen genuine blanks?
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You are going to need a Lexia system so that the ignition will work, and the security code card the car came with (although you can get this code from a Citroen dealership for a fee). The keys have a small microchip circuit built into them that is read by an induction loop around the ignition barrel, and is linked to the immobiliser system. If the microchip does not match, the immobiliser won't allow the engine to start. When the key is cut, you will need to 'introduce' it to the car via the Lexia (you will need to do this with all of the keys, otherwise those that are not done in a session are 'forgotten').
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Hell Razor5543 wrote:You are going to need a Lexia system so that the ignition will work, and the security code card the car came with (although you can get this code from a Citroen dealership for a fee). The keys have a small microchip circuit built into them that is read by an induction loop around the ignition barrel, and is linked to the immobiliser system. If the microchip does not match, the immobiliser won't allow the engine to start. When the key is cut, you will need to 'introduce' it to the car via the Lexia (you will need to do this with all of the keys, otherwise those that are not done in a session are 'forgotten').
ha ha you made my day - the best joke of the morning!
my C5 came with only one key too but I always thought I'd sell the car soon but still got it after 5 years...
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This modern stuff . . I dunno!

Best try the corner shop key cutters. Blanks might be a problem. Mine came with a new blank in addition, so only had the corner shop do his stuff.
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sonoramicommando wrote:
Hell Razor5543 wrote:You are going to need a Lexia system so that the ignition will work, and the security code card the car came with (although you can get this code from a Citroen dealership for a fee). The keys have a small microchip circuit built into them that is read by an induction loop around the ignition barrel, and is linked to the immobiliser system. If the microchip does not match, the immobiliser won't allow the engine to start. When the key is cut, you will need to 'introduce' it to the car via the Lexia (you will need to do this with all of the keys, otherwise those that are not done in a session are 'forgotten').
ha ha you made my day - the best joke of the morning!
my C5 came with only one key too but I always thought I'd sell the car soon but still got it after 5 years...
Oh?
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Hell Razor5543 wrote:
sonoramicommando wrote:
Hell Razor5543 wrote:You are going to need a Lexia system so that the ignition will work, and the security code card the car came with (although you can get this code from a Citroen dealership for a fee). The keys have a small microchip circuit built into them that is read by an induction loop around the ignition barrel, and is linked to the immobiliser system. If the microchip does not match, the immobiliser won't allow the engine to start. When the key is cut, you will need to 'introduce' it to the car via the Lexia (you will need to do this with all of the keys, otherwise those that are not done in a session are 'forgotten').
ha ha you made my day - the best joke of the morning!
my C5 came with only one key too but I always thought I'd sell the car soon but still got it after 5 years...
Oh?
i was inquiring about key for my GSA - doesn't my profile show what cars I have?
and this being GS/GSA forum I naturally assumed you were making a joke about modern key/fob vs old fashioned keys...
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Stonehopper wrote:This modern stuff . . I dunno!

Best try the corner shop key cutters. Blanks might be a problem. Mine came with a new blank in addition, so only had the corner shop do his stuff.
had a look for blanks on ebay and chevronics and the other german vendor but nothing is showing up (other than key/lock combo at stiff price)
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sonoramicommando wrote:
Hell Razor5543 wrote:
sonoramicommando wrote: ha ha you made my day - the best joke of the morning!
my C5 came with only one key too but I always thought I'd sell the car soon but still got it after 5 years...
Oh?
i was inquiring about key for my GSA - doesn't my profile show what cars I have?
and this being GS/GSA forum I naturally assumed you were making a joke about modern key/fob vs old fashioned keys...
While your profile does indeed show the GSA, it also shows 2 other, more modern Citroens, and your OP does not say which vehicle requires the key. I assumed it was one of the C5s.
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sonoramicommando wrote:
Stonehopper wrote:This modern stuff . . I dunno!

Best try the corner shop key cutters. Blanks might be a problem. Mine came with a new blank in addition, so only had the corner shop do his stuff.
had a look for blanks on ebay and chevronics and the other german vendor but nothing is showing up (other than key/lock combo at stiff price)
I had no trouble getting a locksmith that had blanks on the pegs, but that was a good few years ago.

On my 1978 car, the ignition key is Simplex, the door key Ronis and petrol cap key Faab.

Davenport Burgess lists the blanks as VC31, L62UC, FA1. Beware the the door key also has reverse cross-section cousin and that the ignition might also take a VC30 which is almost the same in cross-section to the VC30.

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cit_ign_1 by macplaxton, on Flickr
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cit_ign_2 by macplaxton, on Flickr
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cit_ign_3 by macplaxton, on Flickr
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cit_door_1 by macplaxton, on Flickr
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cit_pet_1 by macplaxton, on Flickr

Having found one of my spare sets, the Silca blank numbers are SX3, RO10 & FAB2. The SX3 is 12mm longer than the SX4, but the business bit is the same length.

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Citroen ignitions keys by macplaxton, on Flickr
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macplaxton wrote:...
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Citroen ignitions keys by macplaxton, on Flickr
I don't have the keys on me but the ignition key looks like it's symmetrical and thicker than the door key (in short, it doesn't look like an old car key) - my car doesn't have a petrol cap lock, I'm thinking of getting one though.
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Of those key profiles my GS looks like the FA1 (ignition that is).
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Stonehopper wrote:Of those key profiles my GS looks like the FA1 (ignition that is).
Those images aren't to scale, the FA1 is about the same size as the door key.
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Yes, and looking at my key the end on profile is none of the above. 8mm wide and 35mm long. Silca on the rubberised head.
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None at all?

I could only find 3 types, early GS, later GS and GSA. Does it having a Simplex key switch? Or maybe it has a Niemann?

(Note for anyone wondering: cross-section in catalogue is for blade being pushed into the screen, rather than looking a key with the tip facing your eyes.)
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It's the same both sides, so either way up it goes straight into the switch - a Simplex.

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