c5 x7 rooflining

[jgra1]

hi all, I tried to fit my old roof bars to the X7 tonight, but upon undoing the first blanking bolt in the roof, the captive escaped..

Is it possible to get the roof lining down enough to stick it back under the roof?* I have never touched roof linings, and cant believe I need to now, on a 6 year old car
* If I can get any access, what would you suggest to hold it back in place? please don't say weld it

many thanks
John

[RichardW]

All I can say is, have fun....!!!

2. Preliminary operations
Disconnect the battery .
Remove :
The front door (RH side)
The front seat (right)
The centre console
The roof console
The screen pillar trim pads
The centre pillar upper trims
The quarter panel trims
The rear screen pillar trims
Partially remove :
The door aperture seals (front) (Upper section)
The door aperture seals (rear) (Upper section)
Open the front and rear LH doors.
Slide the driver´s seat as far rearward as possible.
Tilt the seatback (Towards the rear).
3. Removing

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Open : The sun visor (2).
Unclip : The sun visor (2) (at "a").
Remove :
The (1) bolt
The sun visor (2) with its harness (according to equipment)
N.B. : Carry out the same operations for the other sun visor.

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Remove :
The (4) bolt
The bracket (3) (Sun visor)
N.B. : Carry out the same operations for the other sun visor support.

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Keep the grab handle (6) in the open position.
Unclip the mounting covers (Handling bracket (6)).
Remove :
The bolts (5)
The grab handle (6)
N.B. : Carry out the same operations for the other grab handles.

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Unclip : The courtesy lamp (7) (at "b") ; Using tool [1350-ZZ].
Detach : The courtesy lamp (7).

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Disconnect the connector (at "c").
Remove : The courtesy lamp (7) (rear).

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Unclip : The rear screen blind hook support (8) (at "d") ; Using tool [1350-ZZ].
Remove : The rear screen blind hook support (8).
N.B. : Carry out the same operations for the other rear screen blind hook.
Remove : The 3rd stop lamp trim .

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Recover all of the sun visor (2) and grab handle (6) fixing supports (9).

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CAUTION : Protect the interior of the passenger compartment.
CAUTION : When detaching the headlining (10), do not damage the roof or the side air bags.
CAUTION : If the headlining (10) is to be reused, do not create any folds or replace it if it bears any appearance defects.
Cut the beads of adhesive (at "e") carefully without creating folds, inserting a mastic knife or a spatula between the bead of adhesive and the headlining.
N.B. : When cutting, take care not to penetrate into the thickness of the headlining.
Let the headlining (10) rest on the vehicle’s seats.

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N.B. : Locate the routing of the electrical harness (11).
Detach from the headlining (10) all points at which the harness (11) is fixed by adhesive tape.

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CAUTION : Check the presence of the adhesive foam on the zone (at "f") of the strengthener (12) of the headlining.
If there is no adhesive foam ; Bond some adhesive foam to the zone (at "f").

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CAUTION : If the headlining (10) is to be reused, do not create any folds or replace it if it bears any appearance defects.
2 operators are necessary to carry out the following operations.
Fit : The headlining (10) (On the instrument panel).

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First pivot the front of the headlining (10).
Bring out the headlining (10) through the rear door of the vehicle (On the left-hand side ).
Lower the front LH side of the headlining (10) to allow it to clear the steering column (11).

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Pivot the headlining (10) in the direction of the front RH door.

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Guide the headlining (10) through the front RH door.

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CAUTION : Store the headlining (10) taking care to protect it resting on a table ; With bubblewrap.
Remove : The headlining (10).
Remove the sealing adhesive strip (On the roof).
Remove any dust using a clean cloth.
Apply the primer on the zones made bare (if necessary).
4. Refitting
CAUTION : Always replace the damaged fixings.
CAUTION : Always replace the headlining if there is any damage or marking.
CAUTION : The headlining must be handled carefully to prevent any damage.
Apply a bead of GURIT adhesive to the headlining (Identical to the original application of adhesive).
N.B. : Clean the headlining with soap and water (if necessary).
Proceed in the reverse order to removal.
Reconnect the battery.
Check that the electrical equipment is working correctly.

[jgra1]

Thanks Richard.. a massive help there

I got about 10% in and realised I should sell the car and I don't think I am joking !

[GiveMeABreak]

That sounds about right Richard!
What's happened John? Have you lost the bolt through the roof bar recess? Can you use one of those telescopic magnetic probe things and get it back that way?

[jgra1]

I just undid the thing and all was loose and I keep undoing ..for reasons I don't understand...
So it's a piece of steel roof and next stop is the lining ... tried carefully with small drivers and magnets but it's gone .. I think I will be able to get in and stick it back .. but not totally sure..

For some reason I thoughty old c5 was different .. there was more to it .. the roof bar bolt down was all exterior.. could be wrong..

[daviemck2006]

Go to B&Q and buy a hollow wall anchor! [emoji12]

[GiveMeABreak]

I just undid the thing and all was loose and I keep undoing ..for reasons I don't understand...
So it's a piece of steel roof and next stop is the lining ... tried carefully with small drivers and magnets but it's gone .. I think I will be able to get in and stick it back .. but not totally sure..

For some reason I thoughty old c5 was different .. there was more to it .. the roof bar bolt down was all exterior.. could be wrong..

Well for the roof lining, if you get any loose bits, use a bit of double-sided carpet tape - but that is strong stuff, so don't use it if you need to take the lining off again as it will probably tear it. If you need any diagrams for the roof assembly / showing the trim and bars, just give me a shout.

[jgra1]

just to finish this off... if you have issues with roofbar fitting (I don't have the bars so I am not 100% how they fit) you can access all the captives under the roof by just removing a bit of door seal and putting your hand up the gap - on mine 2 captives broke free ..

if anyone has c5 x7 saloon bars to sell shout
John

[jgra1]

bit confused..
these could fit, but they are listed here for the earlier model .. can anyone confirm the part number for me?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-C5-20 ... SwLs5XLkA6

[GiveMeABreak]

bit confused..
these could fit, but they are listed here for the earlier model .. can anyone confirm the part number for me?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-C5-20 ... SwLs5XLkA6

The ones in the link won't fit the X7 John, the correct part number for the C5 X7 saloon is 9416 AV (currently £155 - £166 inc. VAT and fitting from Citroen).
The ones in the link are for the Mk 1 and Mk 2 facelift Saloon and they are part number 9416 58

[jgra1]

ahh many thanks Mark

I was hoping the '58' bit wasn't relevant

[hoggers]

I just undid the thing and all was loose and I keep undoing ..for reasons I don't understand...
So it's a piece of steel roof and next stop is the lining ... tried carefully with small drivers and magnets but it's gone .. I think I will be able to get in and stick it back .. but not totally sure..

For some reason I thoughty old c5 was different .. there was more to it .. the roof bar bolt down was all exterior.. could be wrong..

Well for the roof lining, if you get any loose bits, use a bit of double-sided carpet tape - but that is strong stuff, so don't use it if you need to take the lining off again as it will probably tear it. If you need any diagrams for the roof assembly / showing the trim and bars, just give me a shout.

Diagrams etc would be a help to me if you have them?!


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[jgra1]

sorry all .. to update this .. don't touch those things in the roof ..they are the posts the bars clamp too ! I discovered after getting some roofbars.. (for some reason I thought they were just blanking plugs like older c5!)

I retrieved my captive nuts quite easily and put them back in with some sealant on.. removing the door seal allowed a bit of room for a magnet etc..