Finding unconventional bolt sizes
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Finding unconventional bolt sizes
We all know that bolt diameter and head size are not exclusive, especially when it comes to cars, but should it take more than 5 minutes to find one? specifically, its the ABS bolt as i bloody snapped mine didn't I!
i'm looking for an m6 bolt but with a 13mm head. all i can find (and all i have to hand) have the usual 10mm head so the "face" of the bolt needs to be fatter to hold the sensor, and washers seem like a bit of a kludge.
the other thing is trying to replicate the double sidedness of the bolt (thread on each end) as i could resecure the heatshield properly then.
i'm looking for an m6 bolt but with a 13mm head. all i can find (and all i have to hand) have the usual 10mm head so the "face" of the bolt needs to be fatter to hold the sensor, and washers seem like a bit of a kludge.
the other thing is trying to replicate the double sidedness of the bolt (thread on each end) as i could resecure the heatshield properly then.
Stu
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Easily snapped, that one...
It's one instance where I'll fire up the lathe and make one from suitable donors...
maybe a local engineering firm or local model maker could make you one?
It's one instance where I'll fire up the lathe and make one from suitable donors...
maybe a local engineering firm or local model maker could make you one?
Jim
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Might have to do that, didnt even think to get one made up. Shame i havent got a lathe!
It snapped on the way in funnily enough. Think i stretched it and didnt quite have the abs sensor flush to the hub as it felt loose until it snapped (did a wheel bolt the same many years ago!)
It snapped on the way in funnily enough. Think i stretched it and didnt quite have the abs sensor flush to the hub as it felt loose until it snapped (did a wheel bolt the same many years ago!)
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
A lathe is a very handy tool when dealing with older cars Stu, it's not a tool you use every day or every week even but well worth investing in one...
I'd be lost without mine...
It falls into the same category as my hydraulic press, engine crane, welder and the like...
I'd be lost without mine...
It falls into the same category as my hydraulic press, engine crane, welder and the like...
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
I Had a Honda Goldwing and number of years back and found it difficult getting the 'special' bolts, until I found these people http://www.jrwebster.co.uk/index.php?id=580, it is worth an ask, Failing that OEM
Good luck,
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Not available anymore from citroen, ill give those guys a nudge thanks
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Surely a normal m6 bolt would do with a washer? the ABS sensor get stuck in pretty tight anyway and I'd bet good money it doesn't even need it.
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
It's a double-ended thing on some models Chris, with a second thread to hold the heat-shield on... Not all are the same...Chris570 wrote:Surely a normal m6 bolt would do with a washer? the ABS sensor get stuck in pretty tight anyway and I'd bet good money it doesn't even need it.
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
That bolt is why god invented a Dremel
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Ohhh you're quite rightCitroJim wrote:It's a double-ended thing on some models Chris, with a second thread to hold the heat-shield on... Not all are the same...Chris570 wrote:Surely a normal m6 bolt would do with a washer? the ABS sensor get stuck in pretty tight anyway and I'd bet good money it doesn't even need it.
some m6 stud and 2 nuts then
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
That would do perfectly!Chris570 wrote: some m6 stud and 2 nuts then
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Thats probably what i'll end up doing! Even locktite the stud in and just undo the nuts for replacement!Chris570 wrote:Ohhh you're quite rightCitroJim wrote:It's a double-ended thing on some models Chris, with a second thread to hold the heat-shield on... Not all are the same...Chris570 wrote:Surely a normal m6 bolt would do with a washer? the ABS sensor get stuck in pretty tight anyway and I'd bet good money it doesn't even need it.
some m6 stud and 2 nuts then
Stu
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1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
I'd not loctite the stud in because you'll want to get it out at some point. I find gently wiggling the ABS sensor gets them out when they are stuck in and you won't be able to do that if you have a fixed stud. Your choice of course
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
If you do anything, a wax/soft sealant is best so you can get it out later, it seals it so reduces rust that makes it stick in.
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Re: Finding unconventional bolt sizes
Both very good points thankyou!
Stu
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2001 206 1.9 LX
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1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
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