Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
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Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
hi, i have bought a 2002 berlingo 1.9d van to restore and maybe come up with a few ideas with but it has a very nasty problem.
The van smokes and runs pretty rough, so after investigating i unplugged the advance solenoid and discovered it ran brilliant but sounded rather knockey, i replaced the solenoid and it still smokes and runs rough i then found that the flywheel lugs had snapped off so i replaced the flywheel thinking this would help.
it never.
i then checked the timing and its perfect.
so i really need help as to what to check now.
please please help me.
thanks
The van smokes and runs pretty rough, so after investigating i unplugged the advance solenoid and discovered it ran brilliant but sounded rather knockey, i replaced the solenoid and it still smokes and runs rough i then found that the flywheel lugs had snapped off so i replaced the flywheel thinking this would help.
it never.
i then checked the timing and its perfect.
so i really need help as to what to check now.
please please help me.
thanks
- chinkostu
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03 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec - x 30
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
This is the dw8 engine with the silly weird pot on top of the pump arm isnt it? Mine always sounded like a bag of spanners too.
Try unplugging the EGR multiplug and see if it helps, it will however bring the engine light on. After that make sure the load lever pot actually works, mine used to bog down and smoke randomly until i replaced the pot
Try unplugging the EGR multiplug and see if it helps, it will however bring the engine light on. After that make sure the load lever pot actually works, mine used to bog down and smoke randomly until i replaced the pot
Stu
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
Thanks for the quick reply. I know this sounds daft but what is the load pot. Lol. Also is the van safe to run with the advance solenoid unplugged or not. Thanks again
- chinkostu
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03 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec - x 30
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
If you look at the fuel pump its the little box that sit on top of the "throttle arm" (yes i know diesels dont have them!) With three wires coming out of it.
The ecu uses this, the crank sensor and the needle lift on injector 4 to slightly alter timing based on temperature and load. Which reminds me, if you unplug thr crank sensor (on flywheel side, 3 pin multiplug) or the needle lift (tiny one plug jobbie on injector 4/1) does it stay rattly? As it'd mean one of these has had it usually.
Its strange that unplugging the advance would do that though.
If its smoking it could be overfuelling which isn't great, personally if its only a bit knocky when unplugged it should be the better of two evils.
The ecu uses this, the crank sensor and the needle lift on injector 4 to slightly alter timing based on temperature and load. Which reminds me, if you unplug thr crank sensor (on flywheel side, 3 pin multiplug) or the needle lift (tiny one plug jobbie on injector 4/1) does it stay rattly? As it'd mean one of these has had it usually.
Its strange that unplugging the advance would do that though.
If its smoking it could be overfuelling which isn't great, personally if its only a bit knocky when unplugged it should be the better of two evils.
Stu
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
So is it safe to drive without the solenoid plugged in it passed the emissions mot. Just don't want to cause more damage to it.
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
If I drive it without the solenoid plugged in will it damage the engine
- chinkostu
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03 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec - x 30
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
With it unplugged it will default to however far the pumps advanced physically. Can't see it doing anything but i cant condone it!
Stu
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
Me again. I have changed the solenoid the black thing you mentioned and the last injector and it still runs awful when the solenoid is plugged in. Any ideas.
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
Still no joy with this. Anyone about to give me some advice please
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
When the advance solenoid is plugged in it runs awful the timings out and it smokes like a chimney. Once I unplug the solenoid its runs smooth just quite knockey. I've unplugged the needle kid which made no difference and I unplugged the load thing and it also made no difference. I'm totally baffled
- chinkostu
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03 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec - x 30
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
When you replaced the flywheel did it have the right amount of lugs for the crank sensor? And is the rev counter reading right?
Its a puzzling one as usually unplugging the solenoid leads it to sound like a tank!
Its a puzzling one as usually unplugging the solenoid leads it to sound like a tank!
Stu
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
Yes it had 2 lugs on it and the revs are reading perfect. When you unplug the solenoid it does sound like a tank but ticks over in perfect time. Once the solenoid is plugged back in the timing goes out and it smokes. I have replaced the solenoid though it's a new one
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
Hi I thought I'd bump this up to see if anyone else could maybe help
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
So an update if anyone's reading. I've noticed that when the advance solenoid is plugged in air bubbles appear in the clear fuel line from the fuel filter housing. Would this have anything to do with the van running rough.
- chinkostu
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03 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec - x 30
Re: Berlingo 1.9d plllleeease help
Air in the fuel causes havoc actually! Jim might have an idea of how its getting there, maybe the seal around the solenoid is perished?wilba2880 wrote:So an update if anyone's reading. I've noticed that when the advance solenoid is plugged in air bubbles appear in the clear fuel line from the fuel filter housing. Would this have anything to do with the van running rough.
Stu
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3
Cars
1995 Xantia 1.9TD SX in (faded) Red
2003 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec in GREEEEEEEN
2001 206 1.9 LX
2001 Saxo VTR
1999 Saxo 1.1 East coast
1999 Punto
1996 306 1.8 XN Auto
1996 Fiesta 1.3