Peugeot 308 CC - Falling apart now?

[xantia_v6]

In danger of being kicked off the forum for lack of (an available) French car to write about, we bought a 2011 (pre-facelift) 308 CC THP 156 HP automatic.

The car is still a bit dirty, as it was not cleaned properly by the previous owner, and not groomed by the dealer, but here you go:

[xantia_v6]

It was first registered new in NZ, and has not yet covered 35,000 km, and is generally in pristine condition.

In this market, Peugeot do not seem to apply names to the trim level packages, but this one is slightly higher spec than the other two I looked at.

This is how PSA describe it:

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Vehicle characteristics
 
Vehicle family	308
Build code	12532 89 1 0585
Warranty Start Date	28/09/2011
BER	e2*2001/116*0362*29
General information
PRODUCT TYPE	CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE	PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY	308
SILHOUETTE	COUPE CABRIOLET - 2 DOOR
TRIM LEVEL	HIGH HIGH
ENGINE	EP6CDT INJECTION
TRANSMISSION	6-SPEED AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
PAINT TYPE	THREE-LAYER PEARLESCENT METALLIC PAINT
BODY COLOUR	KWE - PEARLESCENT WHITE PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE	LEATHER "CLAUDIA" Q1
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR	"FX"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)	AT6 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
DEFINITION TO FOLLOW	OLD RANGE
ENGINE (TYPE)	EP TYPE ENGINE
OTHER BADGE, " MISC. "	WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL	HIGH HIGH
PAINT TYPE	THREE-LAYER PEARLESCENT METALLIC PAINT
BODY COLOUR	KWE - PEARLESCENT WHITE PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE	LEATHER "CLAUDIA" Q1
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR	"FX"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)	AT6 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
Fuel supply-Engine
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT	MOUNTING BOSCH
TANK FILTER	RESERVOIR FILTER INTERIOR
STOP AND START	WITHOUT STOP AND START
ENGINE	EP6CDT INJECTION
FUEL SUPPLY	DIRECT EXCHANGER TURBO INJECTION
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR	WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL	LEAD FREE PETROL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE)	EMISSION CONTROL EURO 5 (ENGINE)
EXHAUST	STANDARD EXHAUST
ENGINE (TYPE)	EP TYPE ENGINE
CAPACITY	1600 CM3
CATALYTIC CONVERTER	3-COMPONENT RHODIUM+PLATINUM FILTER CATALYSER
COOLING MOTOR	RADIATOR THICKNESS: 27 - 21 DM2 BRAZED ALUMINIUM
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING	WITH HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM	"EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC WITHOUT ACCELEROMETER
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION)	WITHOUT ANTI-POLLUTION DEVICE
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION	TECHNICAL VEHICLE EMISSION CONTROL EURO 5
PARTICLE FILTER	WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN	1 AERO 2-SPEED 140W FAN WITHOUT SCOOP
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL	CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION	6-SPEED AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)	AT6 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
FINAL DRIVE RATIO	FINAL DRIVE RATIO 15 X 58
WHEEL STYLE	18-INCH LINCANCABUR WHEEL
CLUTCH	WITHOUT CLUTCH
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX)	W/O GEARBOX DIFF
RIM/TYRE SIZE	18 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE)	225/40 R18 92Y REINFORCED TYRE
WHEELS FITTED	8 INCH WHEEL
WHEEL (TYPE)	ALLOY WHEELS
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR	WITHOUT TYRE DEFLATION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPE	AT6 AUTOMATIC GEARBOX
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT	8 1 BOSCH ESP
PEDAL BRACKET (TYPE)	PEDAL ALUMINIUM
ABS	WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR	REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIA 30
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR	FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 23
BRAKE TYPE	VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
SUSPENSION	NORMAL SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM	ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
Body fittings
TOWBAR	WITHOUT TOWBAR
HORNS	HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL	INTEGRAL AERIAL
REAR SPOILER	ASSEMBLY WITHOUT REAR SPOILER
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE)	WITHOUT LATERAL PROTECTORS
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION)	WITHOUT SIDE PROTECTORS + PEUGEOT SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE)	WITHOUT WHEEL CAP
REVERSING LAMPS	WITH 1 REVERSING LAMP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP	FRONT SILL LIGHTING LIGHT
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE)	W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION	EXT MIRROR ELECTRIC-FOLD BACK
SPLASH SHIELD	STANDARD MUD GUARD
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM	W/O EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING	BULKHEAD SD+INF+BONNET+BELT POWER TRAIN
WINDSCREEN WIPER	FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER	W/O REAR SCREEN WASH WIPE
HEADLAMP WIPER	W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
REAR SCREEN WIPER (OPERATION)	WITHOUT REAR WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK	WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
ROOF GLASS	WITHOUT ROOF WINDOW
REAR TAILGATE GLASS	WITHOUT TAILGATE WINDOW
BUMPER	BODY COLOUR FRONT/REAR SPORT BUMPER WITH RUSH
MUDFLAP	WITHOUT REAR MUDGUARD
NUMBER PLATE	WITHOUT LICENCE PLATE
FRONT FOGLAMP	FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE)	DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR ELECTRIC CONTROL
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE)	PASS EXT RRVIEW MIRROR NON HEATED ELECT CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL	ALLOY WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES	EXT HANDLE + MIRROR BASE + MIRROR CC
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS)	CONVEX EXTERIOR MIRROR GLASS
SUN ROOF	SUNROOF CONCEALABLE
BUMPER TRIM	BUMPER WITHOUT PROTECTIVE STRIP
GLASS (APPEARANCE)	TINTED + MOULDED RR WINDOW GLASS
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE)	SLIDING REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE)	ACOUSTIC LAMINATED WINDSCREEN+TOUGHENED RR SCREEN
Interior fittings
DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG	WITHOUT DRIVER’S KNEE AIRBAG
AUDIO PACK AUXILIARY SOCKET	WITHOUT AUDIO PACK AUXILIARY SOCKET
TELEMATIC UNIT	WITHOUT TELEMATIC UNIT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE	LEATHER "CLAUDIA" Q1
ANTI-THEFT ALARM	WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT	REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
REAR SEAT	RR BENCH SEAT 1 CUSHION SEP BACKREST NON FOLDING
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT	WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT POSITN
REAR SEAT ARMREST	WITH REAR ARMREST
LUGGAGE COVER	WITHOUT LUGGAGE COVER
REAR SEATBELT	WITH SEATBELT SECURED LIGHT
FRONT SEATBELT	PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITH ALARM
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP)	HOT COUNTRIES
CHILD LOCK	WITHOUT CHILD LOCK
SPEED GRADUATIONS	GRADUATION KMS/H
CONSOLE	LONG CONSOLE
DRIVING POSITION	RIGHT HAND DRIVE
ADDITIONAL HEATING	WITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
BOOT AND LOAD SPACE LIGHTING	AUTO BOOT LIGHT AND LOAD VOL SWITCH
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT	FASCIA BASE BLACK U CRYSTAL
INT. TRIM AND EQUIPMENT VARIATION	LEATHER STEER WHEEL METAL DECOR+LEATHER GEAR KNOB
MISC. INT. LAMPS	MAP READING LAMP + AMBIENT LIGHTING
WORK TABLE	WITHOUT WORK TABLE
UNDERSEAT STORAGE	WITHOUT UNDER SEAT STORAGE
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS)	GRAD 230 KM/H 140 M/H WHITE BACKGROUND CHROMED SURROUND+MATRIX
LOUDSPEAKER	4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR) + 2 RR SPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLS	REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
PASSENGER COMPARTMENT SOUNDPROOFING	BULKHEAD SOUNDPROOFING 13 KG
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL	FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT PARALLEL ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL	DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL	PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT	DRIVERS FIXED LATERAL BEARING
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT	PASSENG FIXED LATERAL BEARING
DRIVER’S SEAT FOLDING	WITH FOLD DRIV FRONT SEATING
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT FOLDING	WITH FOLD PASS FRONT SEATING
FRONT SEAT ARMREST	FRONT SEAT CENTRAL ARMREST
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR	EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC	WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM	WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
HEADLAMP BULBS	HALOGEN BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFT	SEQUENTIAL ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW + LOCKING
TRAFFIC INFORMATION READER	WITHOUT LATERAL TRAJECTORY MONITORING
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT	SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT	SEQUEN CONTROL PASSENG FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY	MONOCHROME SCREEN LEVEL C DISPLAY
MISC. INT. ACCESSORY	WITH WINDSTOP
COURTESY MIRROR	DRIVER’S + PASSENGER’S CONCEALABLE WITH LIGHT
FOOTREST	DRIVER’S FOOTREST
CUSHION PADDING	SPORT FRONT SEAT CUSHION PADDING
OIL GAUGE	STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT	DRIV+PASS HEATED SEAT + BLOWING A-T
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG	FRONT CHEST SIDE + FRONT HEAD AIR BAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTING	DRIVER + FR PASSENGER FOOTWELL LIGHTING
PASSENGER AIRBAG	PASSENGER AIRBAG
EQUIPMENT PACK	W/O EQUIPMENT PACK
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (HEATED)	HEATED DOOR MIRROR
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION	WITHOUT AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
INTERIOR DOOR CONTROL (APPEARANCE)	CHROME EFFECT DOOR HANDLE + COLOURED TRIM
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER	REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP	WITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
FRONT SEAT GUARD	WITHOUT CAB PROTECTION PANEL
FRONT SUN VISOR	DRIVER’S+PASSENGER’S SIDE WITHOUT INSCRIPTION
STORAGE (DRIVING POSITION)	WITHOUT ROOF FRONT CONSOLE STORAGE
RADIO RECEIVER	"RD4/MP3" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION	AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL	REGULATOR AND SPEED LIMIT
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR	ELECTROCHROMATIC DAY-NIGHT INTERIOR MIRROR
DRIVER AIRBAG	DRIVERS AIR BAG
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS)	CONVEX EXTERIOR MIRROR GLASS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE	WITH BOOT TIDY
TUNER RADIO	DUAL RADIO TUNER
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM	REAR RADAR OBSTACLE SENSOR
LATERAL BLINDS	WITHOUT SIDE BLINDS
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR	WITHOUT TYRE DEFLATION INDICATOR
TRIM ADAPTATION	G/LEVER KNOB LEATHER CHROME INSERT
FLOOR MAT	WITH CARPETMAT
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER	WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
RADIO FREQUENCY	ASIA RADIO FREQUENCY
LOCKING CONTROL	DEADLOCKING + AUTOMATIC LOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE)	SLIDING REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE)	ACOUSTIC LAMINATED WINDSCREEN+TOUGHENED RR SCREEN
STEERING WHEEL	LEATHER 3-SPOKE STEERING WHEEL WITH METAL DECOR
FAN	1 AERO 2-SPEED 140W FAN WITHOUT SCOOP
Electrical
LIGHTING OF LAMPS	AUTOMATIC SWITCHING ON OF LIGHTS
ALTERNATOR	ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
HORNS	HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY	BATTERY L2 400
STARTER MOTOR	STARTER MOTOR CL 3
BOOT AND LOAD SPACE LIGHTING	AUTO BOOT LIGHT AND LOAD VOL SWITCH
SPECIAL LIGHTING	FRONT DAYTIME LIGHTS
REVERSING LAMPS	WITH 1 REVERSING LAMP
MISC. INT. LAMPS	MAP READING LAMP + AMBIENT LIGHTING
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP	FRONT SILL LIGHTING LIGHT
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION	EXT MIRROR ELECTRIC-FOLD BACK
HEADLAMP BULBS	HALOGEN BULB
FOOTWELL LIGHTING	DRIVER + FR PASSENGER FOOTWELL LIGHTING
BATTERY CHARGE MEASUREMENT	WITH BATTERY CHARGE MEASUREMENT
FRONT FOGLAMP	FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER	REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP	WITHOUT DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
Component manufacturers
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT	8 1 BOSCH ESP
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT	MOUNTING BOSCH
Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION	STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS	DUSTY ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION	RIGHT HAND DRIVE
RADIO HEADPHONE SOCKET	SINGLE ACCESSORY SOCKET
SIDE IMPACTS	DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS	2 HIGH FREQUENCY REMOTE CONTROL KEYS
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT	W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES	EXT HANDLE + MIRROR BASE + MIRROR CC
SLAVE CONTROL UNIT	BSI COMM 2003

It is a bit disappointing that it has only the base-model sound system, I would at least like to upgrade it to handle a USB stick, and maybe bluetooth.
It would also have been nice to have HID headlamps, front parking sensors and electric seats, but the importers here seem to have gone for simplicity.

[CitroJim]

We need to see pictures Mike!!!

[xantia_v6]

I have add a few pictures to the first post.

It is amazing that they spent millions of euros developing a folding roof, but could not design a user manual that will fit in the glovebox, or the central cubby, or the pockets behind the seats, or the pocket on the right hand side of the dashboard, or in any other receptical that I have found. I think there is just about room in the boot with the roof down!

Has anyone seen a procedure for lubricating the roof mechanism on a 307 or 308 CC?

[CitroJim]

Lovely, they look stunning in white

That roof is a work of art...

[DickieG]

It is amazing that they spent millions of euros developing a folding roof, but could not design a user manual that will fit in the glovebox, or the central cubby, or the pockets behind the seats, or the pocket on the right hand side of the dashboard, or in any other receptical that I have found. I think there is just about room in the boot with the roof down!

Have you looked under the drivers seat? Many PSA cars have a slot there for the handbook.

[DHallworth]

I hope your THP engine behaves for you! They're a BMW engine that are prone to timing chain issues. My brother has a 207 GTi with 65k on it that's having it all replaced this weekend. Apparently they're quite prone to snapping around 70k miles.

My days of buying PSA cars are number because of the engine choice they now offer. Cheryl's 207 will be replaced with a 3.0 HDi C5 at some point next year, other then that I can't see another PSA car on the cards for us I'm afraid.

David.

[xantia_v6]

We will just have to take our chances with the engine. This one was made after the modified tensioner was introduced in 2010, so with regular oil changes I hope it will be OK.

I had a better look at the service booklet, and the car was built in March 2011, the warranty start date was August 2011, but the 'first owner' bought it in September 2012. It must have been a dealer demonstrator*, with the first service at 15,000 km only 6 weeks after purchase! Since then it has covered 6000 km per year and had annual services.

A neighbour has just done a rebuild on a mini with the same engine, but I don't know the details yet.

BTW the handbook doesn't go under the seat, it apparently does go in the pocket in the boot.

* This might also explain the presence of Air Wave and 18" wheels which don't seem to be standard in this market.

[elma]

Much nicer colour than the one you test drove earlier, I like it.

[xantia_v6]

This car has automatic folding mirrors, but the passenger mirror does not dip in reverse. Looking at servicebox, there are also memory mirrors, but I presume that they go with memory seats and adjust for each driver. So is it feasible to upgrade to a reversing-dip mirror? Which version of hardware is required?

[xantia_v6]

Time for an update, I think.

The 308 CC has been in more or daily use since we got it, and has given 3500 km of trouble free and pleasurable transport, including a holiday in the Marlborough wine region.


Including a visit to the stunning Omaka aircraft collection (staging by Peter Jackson of Lord of the rings fame)




The only diagnostics it has seen are



Despite reputation, the engine has not consumed any measurable quantity of oil.

The only maintenance has been the replacement of 2 light bulbs, a DRL, which turned out to be a standard 21/5 stop/tail bulb, and an indicator repeater mounted in the door mirror, which requires the whole lamp assembly to be changed, but fortunately a genuine new one was sourced from the UK at reasonable cost.

All in all, the car has grown on us. I am nearly accustomed to the firm suspension.

[CitroJim]

Pleased the 308CC is being well liked Mike!

I like the Lexia wine... Diagnoses you as you drink?

[Stickyfinger]

You should of purchased some of their (Peter Jackson &) WingNutsWings kits



Seems like the Weather/ Area to enjoy the car, I bet it felt at home amongst all those vineyards

[xantia_v6]

The 308 CC has been put to bed for a few months as we have returned to Europe.

It has just ticked over 40,000 km, and is generally still in great condition, but I think the inlet valves are nearly due for attention, as the power delivery is sometimes rather uneven, and it occasionally suffers from something similar to severe turbo-lag. Both symptoms go away after a long run in the countryside, but return after a couple of days around town.

Unfortunately the only place I have found in NZ that advertises media blasting of these engines is a 15 hour drive (plus inter-island ferry) away. The valves would probably need cleaning again by the time I got home...

The only service expenses so far have been 2 DRL bulb failures (now replaced by LED bulbs), and a replacement door mirror indicator repeater (which was probably cracked when we got the car) due to water ingress.

Oil and filter will be changed before it is driven again.

[CitroJim]

Welcome back to Europe Mike