110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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I had a new clutch put in recently and have been left with the following problem. 1st gear can be engaged( at a real push) and 2nd gear goes in but does not seem to be fully engaged. I was thinking that air may have got into the slave cylinder but man says push rod never dropped out when he moved it. Has anyone had similar experience or any ideas. All advice gratefully received,
Thanks in advance.
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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does it go into gear easier if you pump the pedal first,

does it have a dual mass flywheel
Regards, malcolm.

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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Some questions....: It is easier with the engine off? What oil was used? Does it improve when the box is warmed up? How were the gear cables disconnected at the box? Does it crunch into reverse?
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Pumped like mad but makes no difference. Not able to say whether it's a dmf but can say that the clutch was operating smoothly before it suddenly went up the swanee due to a collapsed release bearing. The old clutch was a luk , replacement was a new luk. I noticed that there are several references to the clutch 'bite' as being high up on a pull clutch. Mine begins to bite very low down ie soon after I release the pedal, if I am interpreting the terminology correctly.
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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if you send me the last 8 digits of your chassis/VIN No. i will check on service citroen, alaso get you your cars birth certificate,

maybe someone hasnt engaged the thrust bearing correctly,
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Makes no difference with engine turned off, gearbox oil is Total BV 75-80W, makes no difference after a run and reverse is fine. Gear cables correctly connected and unobstructed.
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Alan
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Edhertz wrote:Pumped like mad but makes no difference. Not able to say whether it's a dmf but can say that the clutch was operating smoothly before it suddenly went up the swanee due to a collapsed release bearing.
None of the Xantias had DMFs.

Take it back to the man and get him to do the job properly, as he clearly hasn't it it worked before, and now doesn't.
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Assuming that the car in question is the one in your sig, your Xantia will not have a dmf. The clutch was done in mine 28k miles ago, the bite is still down towards the bottom of the pedal, and first and second gears can be a small problem to engage when cold. Similar situation to yours which I hope will be solved with a change of oil in the gearbox when I get the time.

If you put the box into third or fourth gear first does it then slide into first easier?
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Northern_Mike wrote:
None of the Xantias had DMFs.
whoooops i did not read the OP's sig

is it possible who ever fitted the new clutch omitted to top the box back up to the level at all, it is said you loose about 1lt of gear oil on pulling the drive shafts out,
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Makes no difference what gear is selected before engaging 1st it remains the same. Checked the oil level as soon as I could and found it to be normal.
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Is it possible to fit the release bearing incorrectly and still be able to select all gears?
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Is the clutch fork doing its job?
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Edhertz wrote:Makes no difference with engine turned off, gearbox oil is Total BV 75-80W, makes no difference after a run and reverse is fine. Gear cables correctly connected and unobstructed.
If it makes no difference with the engine off then I'd be 99% sure it was cable/selector related, out of adjustment/damaged during the clutch job?
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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ekjdm14 wrote:
I'd be 99% sure it was cable/selector related, out of adjustment/damaged during the clutch job?
i think the OP says its hydraulic not cable bud
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: 110 Hdi post clutch gear change problem

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Cable gear change on the ML5 box, Malc... seems the problem is present engine running or not, so it's not a clutch problem, it's a selector problem.
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