Which Xantia front brake pads

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Which Xantia front brake pads

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I bought 45mm pads, listed as valid for my Model
Citroen service state 55mm pads for my Model/VIN
Online catalogues state varying sizes from 60-65mm for my REG.

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check here against your specific year/model

http://www.apecbraking.co.uk/catalogue/ ... iction-498" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

click on the appropriate Apec No. and a drawing and dimensions will pop up
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citronut wrote:check here against your specific year/model

http://www.apecbraking.co.uk/catalogue/ ... iction-498" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

click on the appropriate Apec No. and a drawing and dimensions will pop up
See what I mean? Xantia 1.9TD 07/93-10/99 http://www.apecbraking.co.uk/catalogue/ ... tion-45743 Comes up as a 60.5mm height. It is likely what Citroen refer to as 50mm, as opposed to the 45mm I was sold.
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i have various paper copies of brake component books at my workshop, and the drawings of pads are actual shape and size,

i wonder if you printed some of the drawings out from Apecs on line catalog they would come out actual size???,

then you could lay one of the old pads on the drawings top get an exact match
Regards, malcolm.

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citronut wrote:i have various paper copies of brake component books at my workshop, and the drawings of pads are actual shape and size,

i wonder if you printed some of the drawings out from Apecs on line catalog they would come out actual size???,

then you could lay one of the old pads on the drawings top get an exact match
If I had the old pads in my hands, things may be far easier but why does Citroen Service only give liner height, width, thickness and surface area as defining specification when pad manufacturers use different measurements (presumably the metal backing/mounting parts)?

As for the seller that sent me the 45mm pads, I'm blown away with their response to my request for clarification and advice... They apologised for the error, also apologised they don't have in stock what I need, refunded my payment and told me they don't want them back AND gave me a money-off voucher to buy carplan goods!
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name them for good service and send them the link.....as a retailer that really makes your day and confirms that good service works....
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Stickyfinger wrote:name them for good service and send them the link.....as a retailer that really makes your day and confirms that good service works....

ebay seller motor_world_direct
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Motor-World-Direct" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oddly enough, I asked another seller that listed pads being for my car to confirm they are the right one (giving as much detail as possible) and they've responded "they're are variations for your car, can you give us details of the old pads" smh! So I sent the VIN RPO, Man. Date, Reg and Citroen Service front pad specifications (which, by the way, also list two different sets of pads for my car!) My head hurts.
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The seller has responded asking for OE part number. Can anyone decipher the Citroen Service info I'm seeing, please? This is taken after entering my VIN

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I have no idea what any of it means. :oops:
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There are basically 3 different types of brakes fitted to the front of a Xantia, usually recognised by the disc size: 266mm, 283mm and 288mm. The larger is only fitted to 2.1TD, 110 HDi, V6 and later Activas. The 283 are generally fitted to Estates, and higher output petrols, the 266 to the smaller engined hatches (inc yours). There is I think a 4th variant fitted to early Activas only, but that's very uncommon. So you will need the smallest pads offered.

Anyway, back to your pic. The part number is in the LH column. So you start off with 425291 which is the original part number. Then there are 2 options for 'cheaper' parts offered for older cars. The first of these has had its original part number changed, so it was E172027, now replaced by (RP - replacement part) E172511, the second still goes by LVXL701.

If you ask for pads to suit 266mm discs they should be able to sort you out.
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RichardW wrote:Anyway, back to your pic. The part number is in the LH column. So you start off with 425291 which is the original part number. Then there are 2 options for 'cheaper' parts offered for older cars. The first of these has had its original part number changed, so it was E172027, now replaced by (RP - replacement part) E172511, the second still goes by LVXL701.
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i know you have copy and pasted the part No. list as it is showing on service citroen, but can you post the last 8 digits of your chassis/VIN No. for one of us to see if we can make head nor tail of the situation,

or maybe remove one front pad to compare what Apec show,

is it possible someone has fitted the wrong discs at some point in the cars life?????
Regards, malcolm.

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1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
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1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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i just entered 425291 into Apecs catalog and this is what came up


http://www.apecbraking.co.uk/catalogue/ ... partNumber" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Regards, malcolm.

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1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
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1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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citronut wrote:i know you have copy and pasted the part No. list as it is showing on service citroen, but can you post the last 8 digits of your chassis/VIN No. for one of us to see if we can make head nor tail of the situation,

or maybe remove one front pad to compare what Apec show,

is it possible someone has fitted the wrong discs at some point in the cars life?????
Last 8 of VIN: 72104437 RP:07859 16th May 1998

Not going to remove old pads until I have replacements in my hand.

Part numbers changing over time appears to be the cause of confusion. Citroen "improved" the friction material at some point. Presumably, the other manufacturers responded with yet another different part number equivalent. Meaning, several equivalents with different parts numbers but exactly the same pattern/size and fitting.
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As an aside, I'll be replacing the flexi hoses too but understand these require a special brake spanner - anyone know what the correct term and more importantly, the size of tool I need? I don't want to get into the job and be delayed having to get other parts/tools so trying to be fully prepared.
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I am sure that there was someone on the forum a few years ago with the same issue: a hatch which was fitted with estate-spec front brakes.
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