C5 4HP20
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C5 4HP20
I have c5 with automatic gearbox 4HP20. Today we hear a strange sound from the direction of the gearbox. When placed gearbox in position D, the car goes for about 500m and then stopped, changed from D to R is not helping. I turned off the car and after 15 minutes, repeat, C5 go around 500m to 1 km, and then stop again. Pressing the accelerator pedal is not helping.
Whether the transmission is destroyed?
Whether the transmission is destroyed?
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Re: C5 4HP20
Yes it sounds like the box has expired and will need replacment or rebuild.. Had it ever had a Fluid change at all?
What sort of miles,? Which engine petrol or diesel? Diesel 2.0 hdi use AL4 and 2.2 HDi use the HP4 20.
ZF claim a sealed for life gearbox, but none are really. A fluid change always helps a gearbox work for longer.
What sort of miles,? Which engine petrol or diesel? Diesel 2.0 hdi use AL4 and 2.2 HDi use the HP4 20.
ZF claim a sealed for life gearbox, but none are really. A fluid change always helps a gearbox work for longer.
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Re: C5 4HP20
Thats what has helped kill the box then sadly and its only going to be a replacement box or rebuild..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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Re: C5 4HP20
I concur it's dead.
Rebuild is possible but be prepared to replace the oil pump and have the TC refurbished.
See my website for details of how to do the rebuild. It's easier than it looks
Rebuild is possible but be prepared to replace the oil pump and have the TC refurbished.
See my website for details of how to do the rebuild. It's easier than it looks
Jim
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Re: C5 4HP20
We so need ROLF backCitroJim wrote: It's easier than it looks
BTW, the page about splitting the box is not found, Jim....
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Re: C5 4HP20
The link in the top left works, the one in the bottom right doesn't...RichardW wrote: BTW, the page about splitting the box is not found, Jim....
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Re: C5 4HP20
Thanks both, I'll fix that when I'm next in the web server...Mandrake wrote:The link in the top left works, the one in the bottom right doesn't...RichardW wrote: BTW, the page about splitting the box is not found, Jim....
And I've brushed up on vi commands
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Re: C5 4HP20
RichardW wrote:We so need ROLF backCitroJim wrote: It's easier than it looks
After just having done an RX-8 'box recently and having stripped an ML5 I still say automatic 'boxes are easier than any manual box...
Easier perhaps being a relative term
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Re: C5 4HP20
I need to delve into an al4 but need to work the courage to do it first. ..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
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1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Re: C5 4HP20
Get a scrap one as a practice-piece and go for it Paul.citroenxm wrote:I need to delve into an al4 but need to work the courage to do it first. ..
I never recommend going into one you want to fix properly unless you've practised first on a scrapper.
You've got the manual haven’t you?
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Re: C5 4HP20
Yes I have.. anyone have a scrap al4 I can mess with then???
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Re: C5 4HP20
I got another one, used, useable transmission 4 HP20, that has a similar mileage.
Tomorow i'll dismantle old one.
Tomorow i'll dismantle old one.
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Re: C5 4HP20
DO A FLUID CHANGE NOW!!
Use ONLY Esso LT71141 fluid ONLY, DO NOT USE any Dexron type fluid!
Use ONLY Esso LT71141 fluid ONLY, DO NOT USE any Dexron type fluid!
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
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1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Re: C5 4HP20
Paul, excellent advice on both countscitroenxm wrote:DO A FLUID CHANGE NOW!!
Use ONLY Esso LT71141 fluid ONLY, DO NOT USE any Dexron type fluid!
The second is absolutely mandatory. Take care of fluids that claim to be LT71141 compatible. They aren't and a look at the small print will show they're actually Dexron III in disguise
Only Esso and Mobil make the genuine stuff.
Jim
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