Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
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Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Hi Guys.
I'm back again on the french scene after a few yrs away since having the XM and a 405 a few months back.
I have now been given a 2000 Xantia HDI Estate (Pics will follow) very nice it is too, but it has recently had new disc's and pads, but now the abs seems to cut in at low speed ie ; below 30 mph! when the ABS light is lit up on the dash the brakes work perfectly.
Now my answer is that - after having new pads etc does the system need bleeding? inc the ABS or does it sound like the ABS pump or module is naff
Any ideas ??
Nigel
I'm back again on the french scene after a few yrs away since having the XM and a 405 a few months back.
I have now been given a 2000 Xantia HDI Estate (Pics will follow) very nice it is too, but it has recently had new disc's and pads, but now the abs seems to cut in at low speed ie ; below 30 mph! when the ABS light is lit up on the dash the brakes work perfectly.
Now my answer is that - after having new pads etc does the system need bleeding? inc the ABS or does it sound like the ABS pump or module is naff
Any ideas ??
Nigel
1998 Xantia 1.8i 16v Auto (sold)
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
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Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
You lucky b****r.
I would bleed the brakes each time any major work was done on them.
I would check the reluctor rings on the front drive shafts. If they crack (they do, when rust builds up on the drive shaft) they can spin at different speeds, which confuses the ABS to the point it takes itself off line (which then puts the ABS light on). Gracies' ABS played up when the rings has cracked, but the ABS got confused at motorway speeds.
There is a SERIOUS downside to the problem YOU have. While the ABS is sussing things out (takes a few seconds) the brakes don't work (well, the handbrake does). If this happens when you need to stop in a hurry you are not going to like it! There is a temporary way to prevent this happening, but it is one that is frowned upon; remove the fuse for the ABS. The reason people don't like suggesting it is that if you have an accident that the ABS might have prevented then court actions may happen. Personably I feel that unreliable ABS is more dangerous than disabled ABS.
What happens with your ABS system?
I would bleed the brakes each time any major work was done on them.
I would check the reluctor rings on the front drive shafts. If they crack (they do, when rust builds up on the drive shaft) they can spin at different speeds, which confuses the ABS to the point it takes itself off line (which then puts the ABS light on). Gracies' ABS played up when the rings has cracked, but the ABS got confused at motorway speeds.
There is a SERIOUS downside to the problem YOU have. While the ABS is sussing things out (takes a few seconds) the brakes don't work (well, the handbrake does). If this happens when you need to stop in a hurry you are not going to like it! There is a temporary way to prevent this happening, but it is one that is frowned upon; remove the fuse for the ABS. The reason people don't like suggesting it is that if you have an accident that the ABS might have prevented then court actions may happen. Personably I feel that unreliable ABS is more dangerous than disabled ABS.
What happens with your ABS system?
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
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Sounds like the reluctor rings on the driveshaft are either filthy or broken. This tricks the ABS into activating. It's a most disconcerting feeling. My HDI did this, a friend I lent it to didn't expect it and ran into the back of someone. Someone he was following from an arranged meeting point to buy their car off them. In my car. My car I'd already sold to CitroJim....
It's therefore advisable to get it fixed
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It's therefore advisable to get it fixed
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Last edited by Northern_Mike on 29 Jun 2014, 20:03, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Thanks for the replies Guys.
I will check the rings tomorrow, yes when applying the brakes when the light is not on it feels as if its not going to stop !!!
I will take pics tomorrow for the car.
A work mate who has had it for 11 yrs wanted a new car and said to me find me a new car with low mileage, she said the Xantia is mine, 110k and in lovley condition.
I have now given my Saab 9-5 est the the misses I just love the Xantia.
kEEP YOU ALL INFORMED
I will check the rings tomorrow, yes when applying the brakes when the light is not on it feels as if its not going to stop !!!
I will take pics tomorrow for the car.
A work mate who has had it for 11 yrs wanted a new car and said to me find me a new car with low mileage, she said the Xantia is mine, 110k and in lovley condition.
I have now given my Saab 9-5 est the the misses I just love the Xantia.
kEEP YOU ALL INFORMED
1998 Xantia 1.8i 16v Auto (sold)
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Leading on a little from the original thread !!.
Can anyone tell me what other Citroen alloy wheels will fit the Xantia, I don'y have a clue about offset etc
Just wanted to know if any from say a C4 would fit ???
Can anyone tell me what other Citroen alloy wheels will fit the Xantia, I don'y have a clue about offset etc
Just wanted to know if any from say a C4 would fit ???
1998 Xantia 1.8i 16v Auto (sold)
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
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Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Try getting hold of Paul (citroenxm). He may have alloys for a Xantia, and he should know the specs.
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Hahhh Yes
I forgot about Paul - Met him at Little Horwood meet Yr or Two ago, I think I still have his number.
He gave me a hell raising ride in his old XM s1 v6 he had at the time, I shall never forget that experience !
I forgot about Paul - Met him at Little Horwood meet Yr or Two ago, I think I still have his number.
He gave me a hell raising ride in his old XM s1 v6 he had at the time, I shall never forget that experience !
1998 Xantia 1.8i 16v Auto (sold)
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD Estate (Resting with 231k) zzzzzz
1989 BX 19 RD (In a barn awaiting TLC)
2002 C5 2.2 HDI Auto Estate (Sold)
1994 XM 2.0 Turbo (Sold)
1983 Bertone X1/9 VS
1995 405 1.8 GLX Estate (sold)
2000 Xantia Estate 2l HDI 110K
Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
AAAAH Nigel how the hell are you bud
theres no need/reason for the brakes to require bleeding after fitting discs and pads, as usually the fluid side of the system has not been not been opened,
i agree with the reluctor rings either being cracked or clogged up with dirt, grease or rusty
theres no need/reason for the brakes to require bleeding after fitting discs and pads, as usually the fluid side of the system has not been not been opened,
i agree with the reluctor rings either being cracked or clogged up with dirt, grease or rusty
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
As far as court actions go on ABS fuse removal?.........easy, just blow the fuse, then put it back in till you get fixed.
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Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
It's hard to argue with the fiendish cleverness of your suggestion lexi...lexi wrote:As far as court actions go on ABS fuse removal?.........easy, just blow the fuse, then put it back in till you get fixed.
Having also experienced intermittent loss of brakes due to faulty ABS that nearly caused me to run into someone in front of me at low speed, I too would disable the ABS as a stop gap measure until the problem was sorted. And drive a bit more conservatively!
Simon
1997 Xantia S1 3.0 V6 Auto Exclusive in Silex Grey
2016 Nissan Leaf Tekna 30kWh in White
2011 Peugeot Ion Full Electric in Silver
1977 G Special 1129cc LHD
1978 CX 2400
1997 Xantia S1 2.0i Auto VSX
1998 Xantia S2 3.0 V6 Auto Exclusive
1997 Xantia S1 3.0 V6 Auto Exclusive in Silex Grey
2016 Nissan Leaf Tekna 30kWh in White
2011 Peugeot Ion Full Electric in Silver
1977 G Special 1129cc LHD
1978 CX 2400
1997 Xantia S1 2.0i Auto VSX
1998 Xantia S2 3.0 V6 Auto Exclusive
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Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Now THAT is a good way around that problem, but we had better stop 'talking' about it before somebody cottons on!
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
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Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Probably not, but in this age of litigation (bl00dy Yanks), why take the chance?
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
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Re: Been Given A Xantia Estate HDI
Lucky bloke!
I guess that sets a new benchmark low for HDi estate values -ie 'Pleased to be given it'
Can't be long now before they reach 'I'd be annoyed if i found one'!
Still, those of us who appreciate such things will continue not to care... I've just spent several hundred quid having every hydraulic pipe replaced after two annoying pipe bursts.. just because I didn't want to scrap a good car I've owned from new for want of a few pipes! I still use it most days in preference to my Discovery 3!
Its an addiction, really, this Xantia thing!
I guess that sets a new benchmark low for HDi estate values -ie 'Pleased to be given it'
Can't be long now before they reach 'I'd be annoyed if i found one'!
Still, those of us who appreciate such things will continue not to care... I've just spent several hundred quid having every hydraulic pipe replaced after two annoying pipe bursts.. just because I didn't want to scrap a good car I've owned from new for want of a few pipes! I still use it most days in preference to my Discovery 3!
Its an addiction, really, this Xantia thing!