I know I am going to get some stick for this
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I know I am going to get some stick for this
Hello,
I have a car with a leaky gearbox and i am going to try one of the highly recommended American
addatives called Tri-seal gearbox seal reconditioner.
I shall report back when it does or doesnt work, I am not expecting any miracles, but hey they say it works usually after 200 miles have been covered.
I know I'm going to get some stick for this and a new seal is always better than a bodge but what the heck I thought I'd give it a go anyway.
regards Nigel.
I have a car with a leaky gearbox and i am going to try one of the highly recommended American
addatives called Tri-seal gearbox seal reconditioner.
I shall report back when it does or doesnt work, I am not expecting any miracles, but hey they say it works usually after 200 miles have been covered.
I know I'm going to get some stick for this and a new seal is always better than a bodge but what the heck I thought I'd give it a go anyway.
regards Nigel.
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
dont these oil leak fix potions just swell any seals up???
Regards, malcolm.
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
Hello Malcolm,
You are well I hope?
Yes apparently that is what they are supposed to do and they are really only a short term fix
but some mug has got to try it haven't they.
We shall see, there are a variety available that say they have special polimers in to soften rubber seals
but are only available in the states, this one is from the US and apparently 4 x 4 people have been using it to seal mainshaft gearbox seals that drip oil, so as apposed to trying wynns gearbox addative and sealer from the UK and having no results at all I thought I'd give ths one a try. if it does work
it will certainly be interesting, I am al ittle concerned that the car wont make it to a garage to be repaired so I'll try this first which is a lot cheaper than hiring a trailer and see what happens.
Regards
Nigel. ps I'll be glad when 2013 ends
You are well I hope?
Yes apparently that is what they are supposed to do and they are really only a short term fix
but some mug has got to try it haven't they.
We shall see, there are a variety available that say they have special polimers in to soften rubber seals
but are only available in the states, this one is from the US and apparently 4 x 4 people have been using it to seal mainshaft gearbox seals that drip oil, so as apposed to trying wynns gearbox addative and sealer from the UK and having no results at all I thought I'd give ths one a try. if it does work
it will certainly be interesting, I am al ittle concerned that the car wont make it to a garage to be repaired so I'll try this first which is a lot cheaper than hiring a trailer and see what happens.
Regards
Nigel. ps I'll be glad when 2013 ends
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
Nigel, consider stick duly given I generally don't do additives of any sort except as a matter of absolute last resort and only then to tide me over.
To be honest Nigel, if the 'box is leaking from the driveshaft seals then it's such an easy job to replace them that it’s pointless even considering any snake oil preparations to fix it.
Perhaps if it's leaking from the mainshaft seal then maybe.
Anyway , if this is on your car with a duff cam then the engine will be coming out anyway so there's the ideal time to do it.
Yup.citronut wrote:dont these oil leak fix potions just swell any seals up???
To be honest Nigel, if the 'box is leaking from the driveshaft seals then it's such an easy job to replace them that it’s pointless even considering any snake oil preparations to fix it.
Perhaps if it's leaking from the mainshaft seal then maybe.
Anyway , if this is on your car with a duff cam then the engine will be coming out anyway so there's the ideal time to do it.
Jim
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
I put something similar in the Jeep Cherokheap I had a while ago because of a seal leak. It stopped leaking, much to my amazement. I didn't buy the stuff, someone gave it me and convinced me to try it. I'm not a fan of additives and probably wouldn't use it in anything other than an old Heep with nothing to lose.
This is the same Heep that had a nasty top-end rattle, that I fixed by draining a litre of oil out of it, and putting a litre of diesel in the oil and driving it around for a few days!..
This is the same Heep that had a nasty top-end rattle, that I fixed by draining a litre of oil out of it, and putting a litre of diesel in the oil and driving it around for a few days!..
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Gosh. Or was it the resulting big end knock drowned out the noise of the top end rattle Mike?Northern_Mike wrote: This is the same Heep that had a nasty top-end rattle, that I fixed by draining a litre of oil out of it, and putting a litre of diesel in the oil and driving it around for a few days!..
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
maybe its the same one they used to fix the space shuttle seals instead of doing the job proper like and fitting new seals , you know the famous shuttle that launched then explodedfalling-out-with-my-car wrote: We shall see, there are a variety available that say they have special polimers in to soften rubber seals
but are only available in the states, this one is from the US
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Regards, malcolm.
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
I wouldn't say there's anything wrong in using something like this to give a bit of time in order to get a proper repair done when it's convenient. How many times on has something been recommended on here to cure heater matrix leaks? If it does prove to be a permanent fix so much the better. I was very pessimistic about liquid remedies until i used Lube gard in 2 worn automatic gearboxes, 1 for 110,000 miles, signs of wear eliminated. Simon (Mandrake) has had good results with it on his V6 as well.
My local independent (chain of 5) motor factor is selling some gloop to repair failed head gaskets for about £35. With a guarantee to work if the instructions are followed. Naturally I was completely unconvinced this would be any good whatsoever. They claimed last year that they'd sold over 35 so far and only once had it not worked. This was due to the instructions not being followed and when the replacement was used correctly it did.
How on earth something like this works I've no idea but there's clearly been some major advances in chemical repair stuff over the years.
Remember STP?
Cheers
Paul
My local independent (chain of 5) motor factor is selling some gloop to repair failed head gaskets for about £35. With a guarantee to work if the instructions are followed. Naturally I was completely unconvinced this would be any good whatsoever. They claimed last year that they'd sold over 35 so far and only once had it not worked. This was due to the instructions not being followed and when the replacement was used correctly it did.
How on earth something like this works I've no idea but there's clearly been some major advances in chemical repair stuff over the years.
Remember STP?
Cheers
Paul
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
AHaa the engine is staying in the car i hope well the bottom end anyway, I'll be pinching the head off of the spare engine that Xac Has.citronut wrote:
Anyway , if this is on your car with a duff cam then the engine will be coming out anyway so there's the ideal time to do it.
anyway its not that gearbox thats leaking.
regards Nigel
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Ok, fair do....falling-out-with-my-car wrote: anyway its not that gearbox thats leaking.
regards Nigel
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Nigel, it might actually be easier to do a whole engine swap rather than the head, then you could take the gearbox off your old engine and use that to replace the leaking one.
Fitting a new cambelt kit and water pump to the new engine before it's installed in the car would be a damn sight easier too.
Fitting a new cambelt kit and water pump to the new engine before it's installed in the car would be a damn sight easier too.
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While this is true, I'd point the finger more at NASA's incompetence and mismanagement seeing as they'd known about the design issue with the seals for 9 years before Challenger went bang. Utterly shameful really, and typical of NASA over the years.CitroJim wrote:Ok, fair do....falling-out-with-my-car wrote: anyway its not that gearbox thats leaking.
regards Nigel
And it was the cold that sealed Challenger’s fate. It hardened the O rings so much they would no longer seal.
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Re: I know I am going to get some stick for this
'Fitting a new cambelt kit and water pump to the new engine before it's installed in the car would be a damn sight easier too.
very much so
think an engine swap is cheaper and easier than a head off really..
very much so
think an engine swap is cheaper and easier than a head off really..
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twas not my quote Nigel but Sir Jimsfalling-out-with-my-car wrote:AHaa the engine is staying in the car i hope well the bottom end anyway, I'll be pinching the head off of the spare engine that Xac Has.citronut wrote:
Anyway , if this is on your car with a duff cam then the engine will be coming out anyway so there's the ideal time to do it.
anyway its not that gearbox thats leaking.
regards Nigel
CitroJim wrote:
Anyway , if this is on your car with a duff cam then the engine will be coming out anyway so there's the ideal time to do it.
Regards, malcolm.
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1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
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1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
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1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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thats weired I just clicked Quote above and it coppied what was posted I didnt add your name to it.
Ive got to let the man at the garage do what he needs to do. as regards the engine
why does everybody assume it is my xantia gearbox leaking?????
I wish I hadn't said anything now. and I thouyght I was being moderately helpful.
trying out some gunk and letting someone know if it works or not.
regards
Nigel.
Ive got to let the man at the garage do what he needs to do. as regards the engine
why does everybody assume it is my xantia gearbox leaking?????
I wish I hadn't said anything now. and I thouyght I was being moderately helpful.
trying out some gunk and letting someone know if it works or not.
regards
Nigel.
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