Strut hose repair? How easy/fail safe is this job?

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Strut hose repair? How easy/fail safe is this job?

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Hiya my mk1 is getting a little weepy again, I think previously I had chopped a section from the return hose in the front wheel arch and made it 'ok' again! It's where it fits onto the connecting pipe it's done a small split again. its a bit too late in the evening on the street to get too involved now specially as the garage has fixed wheels on with an air gun!

So options are...
1. I bought a new genuine pipe for the strut, didnt fit it as I wasn't confident, but it looks easy. Basically the bit that connects to the strut is an old TV shaped 'mouth' I presume this is held on by the tin clip holding around the strut. This clip, I do not have a new one....
Would it be messy and do I need a new clip, I presume zip ties may be a little weak??

2. Carefully pop off the hose from the pipe end and cut another 15mm off and hope it goes back on without issue.

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I fit a new clip out of habit. It's not necessary if you remove the old one gently.

What does make the job a doddle is Clic pliers, the tool that properly grips and closes the clip. I think the cheapest are about £15/pr but you will use them quite a bit.

Mark the strap location with whiteout or similar (including actual clip position) before removal. Some LHM will dribble out; it's unavoidable, so swaddle the hub carrier with rags.
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When I replaced mine I didn't have the pliers, but getting the old clip off without damage is not difficult.
To get it back together is a bit harder - old clip or new - but I held the cup and clip loosely in place then put a pair of sturdy cable ties around, just above and below the clip strap and tightened these until the clip could be done up with normal pliers.
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When i do the job i remove the plate from the old clip.. easyilly done once off and get a NARROW width hose clip for example one used on the air cleaner intake hose.. i then fold the small holding lugs out on the plate and fit it with the hose clip. I cant seem to get those original clips to close up. Guess i must invest in some of those clic pliers addo mentioned..

For now though above method is how ive been dooin it witbout fail..
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why mess about concocting different fixing methods when the OE clip is simple to remove and re/fit,
i just use the like of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/carpenters-pincers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

the ones i have i just ground the jaws thinner and they work a treat
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Pukka tool is only £8.... http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productinfo. ... MgodcXUAQQ Must get one, along with a trim tool, and a crescent spanner, and a 16mm ratchet spanner, and a windy gun, and... and... and.... :-D
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addo wrote:I fit a new clip out of habit. It's not necessary if you remove the old one gently. What does make the job a doddle is Clic pliers, the tool that properly grips and closes the clip. I think the cheapest are about £15/pr but you will use them quite a bit.
Exactly. Having wasted lots of time in the past, struggling to remove 'Clic' fasteners, when I eventually invested in a proper pair of Clic pliers I wished I'd done so long ago. There are a few places though where replacing Clic fasteners with Jubillee clips is a good idea - the hoses onto the oil filler pot being a case in point (you have to remove the fuel filter housing to get the Clic pliers in there.
RichardW wrote:Pukka tool is only £8.... http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productinfo. ... MgodcXUAQQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Must get one, along with a trim tool, and a crescent spanner, and a 16mm ratchet spanner, and a windy gun, and... and... and.... :-D
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I have fitted a couple with cable ties as I couldn't get the wretched clip to fasten - had no problems.

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I've got the other ones, VS1661. Still, either does it right every time.
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Thanks for all your ever useful replies. Cheers.
I had a good read on related topics and found some good tips on here from previous issues with return hoses.
I also located a brand new clip from GSF on ebay so ordered one. The proper too would be a good idea makes sense. as does the metal square part being used with a strong hose clip...
So should be fine. its just that I'm off to a distant car show next week and my Cortina not being ready, the battle bus is getting cleaned!
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Starting to sound like a 5 min job with the right tools! even on the side of the road, the rag wrapping tip makes mucho sense.
I presume there will be no bleeding or anything to do after with it being a return hose... good!
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reanimation wrote:I presume there will be no bleeding or anything to do after with it being a return hose... good!
I find that using the proper tools minimises the amount of lost skin (not to mention temper) :-D
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:D Lolz that did go through my mind!
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