C5 Speedo Q..

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C5 Speedo Q..

Post by citroenxm »

Hi C5 ers..

Ive a new customer with a 51 plate C5 HDi 110 ... The MILES on the speedo count up, However the needle doesnt work.

I checked the Needle stepper motor on the Lexia, and it worked correctly. Is the miles and needle driven seperatly?? Or are we needing a replacment speedo head?
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Re: C5 Speedo Q..

Post by Peter.N. »

I think the same signal drives the speedo and mileometer. The fault on the stepper motor is a mechanical one so won't show on the Lexia, its working OK but not moving the needle.

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Post by citroenxm »

Cheers Peter,

So thats a speedo head swap then?
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Post by myglaren »

Or replace the stepper motor. Use the one from the tacho if you're not bothered about that or grab a second hand panel with a different fault.
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Post by citroenxm »

Ah i can do that.. ive got another panel with a lighting problem but working speedo..

So the motors are individually swappable..

Thanks steve..

PS. I hope you are keeping well!
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Re: C5 Speedo Q..

Post by Citroenmad »

Just don't price a new speedo unit from Citroen, its followed by a lengthy laying down period :lol:

Yep, just the stepper motor, which is lucky as replaceing the speedo unit can be a can of worms if the doner car has higher mileage.

I had this with one of our C5s but I didn't know about the stepper motor replacement at the time. However I was lucky enough to find the right speedo unit sat on a shelf at a local French car parts place. Brand new and boxed for £70, that is a mahoosive discount on Citroens 'plucked form the air' figure.
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Post by citroenxm »

I got a clock in the shed... that and a c5 hdi rad and set of alloys are the only c5 things i got.. ill have a mess with the clocks when i get to it...

Priority first is rear near side arm swap... near side ball joint and cam belt and water pump.. all on desperate terms and customer wants them dooing... C 5 back on my customer list again ... aaaarrrggghhhhhhhh.. gemmie outta here... :-D :-D
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Re: C5 Speedo Q..

Post by Citroenmad »

At least it has the right engine, Paul :lol: Arm shouldn't be too bad, is it just the radius bearing? Pretty similar to a Xantia. And for the cambelt, there is probably more room in the C5s engine bay than the Xantia, so you should be ok :)

You never know, it might sway you around to the idea of a C5 :roll: :lol:
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Post by citroenxm »

If i go for a c5 chris recent events with the s h i t e y psa/ford 1600 is a massive no for me so it would have to be s2 c4 type front 2.0 16v 138bhp dw10 engine for me..i do like the s2 its a better car all round..

Im not worried about the jobs to do yes the 2.0 8v does look lost in there and loads a room.. just hope the arm swap job wont rear any issues.. the car has had a recent new n/s caliper too from his previous mechanic to solve the leaning issue.. so that should come off easilly enough.. cam belt.. a doddle..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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Post by RichardW »

Don't know what you're worrying about Chris, the new instrument panel is only £540 :lol:

Paul - Peter N was doing C5 rear arms at the same time I was fighting with my Xantia. Pin in the ram is problematic, but as it's under the subframe rather than in it as per Xantia, access is a bit better to try and drive it out.
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Re: C5 Speedo Q..

Post by citroenxm »

Cheers Ricahard.

I have the car for next mon/tue to do rear arm and bottom ball joint, and if things go well, fit Cam belt and water pump too!
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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