clean your fuel pump!!
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clean your fuel pump!!
Having had worse and worse problems with economy I decided a look into ir....I took fuel pump ou of ank and my god ir was full of dirt!!! Cleaned and replaced I'm now doin 50mpg and car is flyin!!!
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Excellent
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
As in The rockers jim is that The cam followers?
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Yep, that's it Taffy... Rockers are cam followers unless you’re a Yank and then rockers are something else entirely. Sills I thinktaffy wrote:As in The rockers jim is that The cam followers?
Just so this thread makes full sense, Taffy posted this on the Emergency FCF when this one was down earlier in the week:
To which I replied:taffy wrote:Got bad news no thou...
Car stopped other nite and would not turn over...cambelt cover looked like it was coming off..
Tried startin again and belt came off The fuel sprocket....was like something seized...got it home and took covers off...cam feels ok as does crank but fuel pump will turn 1 rotation and jam...also went to take off bottom pully put it in gear and The crank still moves....any help would be great...thanks
CitroJim wrote:Yes, sounds like the pump is kippered. The engine will be OK substantially but you'll find broken rockers. these can be replaced but be sure to take care to remove any needle rollers that may have sopilt fromt he broken rockers with a strong magnet...
Then fit a new pump and all should be good..
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Thanks mate...and well done for gettin our comments bk...I couldn't find them!
So how would you go about botttom pully and is there just one, type of hp pump or a few?
Thanks mate
So how would you go about botttom pully and is there just one, type of hp pump or a few?
Thanks mate
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Thank god The engine was designed to break The rockers if The belt goes!
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Taffy, as for getting the crank pulley off, I'd remove the rockers and shaft so all valves are closed and then engage 5th gear, pull the handbrake on tight and undo the crank bolt with a stout breaker..
If that doesn't do then there's no reason, with all valves firmly closed and no risk of further collision, why you can't use the old starter motor trick to loosen the bolt...
Don't try holding the periphery of the crank pulley as you'll damage it..
I believe there's a couple of different pumps but I don't know how interchangeable they are. Paul (CitroenXM) will know for sure as he's been there...
It does seem that breaking rockers saves the cam and valves...
EDIT: Reading your earlier post I wonder if debris from the tank found its way into the pump and damaged it. I'd be inclined to swap the low pressure (tank) pump and filter assembly after replacing the HP pump to be sure there's no more debris lying in wait to cause mischief...
If that doesn't do then there's no reason, with all valves firmly closed and no risk of further collision, why you can't use the old starter motor trick to loosen the bolt...
Don't try holding the periphery of the crank pulley as you'll damage it..
I believe there's a couple of different pumps but I don't know how interchangeable they are. Paul (CitroenXM) will know for sure as he's been there...
It does seem that breaking rockers saves the cam and valves...
EDIT: Reading your earlier post I wonder if debris from the tank found its way into the pump and damaged it. I'd be inclined to swap the low pressure (tank) pump and filter assembly after replacing the HP pump to be sure there's no more debris lying in wait to cause mischief...
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Yes iv also thought this jim....which would be gutting as its spotless now but it jams so solid I'm hopeing its not...can The hp pump be stripped?
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
I would imagine they can Taffy but to be honest if it's died in such a way as to seize it and wreck the engine I'd expect the inside of the pump to look a bit like the Somme..
I'd scrap the old pumps and filter housing/filter without question and replace with known good articles...
I'd scrap the old pumps and filter housing/filter without question and replace with known good articles...
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Gona be a few quid to fix it then....where would u sorce The pumps and rockers mate?
Thanks so much jim
Thanks so much jim
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
I'd look for someone scrapping an HDi with a good engine...taffy wrote:where would u sorce The pumps and rockers mate?
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
You'll often find rockers for the HDI engine on eBay. Last time I looked they were around £8 each or slightly less if you bought a full set. Good luck.
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
Well still haven't attempted it yet as I'm flat broke at The mo and on jsa
But I'm on such a budjet I'm really not sure what to replace....I want to do it all but money so tight
And car is sorely needed walking bout 15 mile aday now jus tryin to get by
My point is I need new belt..idler..tensioner...wpump..and crank pully now by look of it iys coverd in orange
Dust...what minimum can I do..
Thanks
But I'm on such a budjet I'm really not sure what to replace....I want to do it all but money so tight
And car is sorely needed walking bout 15 mile aday now jus tryin to get by
My point is I need new belt..idler..tensioner...wpump..and crank pully now by look of it iys coverd in orange
Dust...what minimum can I do..
Thanks
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
I HATE to say this, but based on what I have read, you need them all. If you only do a part job, and one of the old parts fail you are back to square one (or worse if it causes good bits to fail).
I HATE this bit even more, but as you have to remove them to change the timing belt it makes sense to replace the aux belt (and bits) as well. I have been told that dealerships allow 5 hours to replace the timing belt, 3 hours for the aux belt, but for them both it's about 5.5 hours.
JSA? Been there, done that, DON'T want to be there EVER again!
I HATE this bit even more, but as you have to remove them to change the timing belt it makes sense to replace the aux belt (and bits) as well. I have been told that dealerships allow 5 hours to replace the timing belt, 3 hours for the aux belt, but for them both it's about 5.5 hours.
JSA? Been there, done that, DON'T want to be there EVER again!
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Re: clean your fuel pump!!
I know I would be a fool to not do it properly....just can't get a job at The mo its pretty rough...100 to me rite now is a lot of money! Could I use used rockers? Might be a little cheeper...I haven't even removed The rockr cover yet so all could be good...that citroen book time seems like they have a 4 hour lunch break lol...I've been studing my bible haynes and apart from cranking ang checkin tension seems easy...,ah mate I hate not workin ain't been this low for years!....every cloud aye
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