First and Last Xantia Comparison
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First and Last Xantia Comparison
Hi all..
Boardom, or what ever you want to call it, im not sure, but while I had a chance, I done a quick First and Last Xantia comparison...
The white Xantia is a XUd 1.9 TD SX model.. The blue car is a HDi 110bhp "Forte" model
This was because I happen to have the Sinker project and mums Y reg cars both on her drive at the same time...
Some external comparisons to start with..
Showing the nose mod, the rear lamp change, and the change from grey door moulds to colour coded.
The white car is a SX, mid spec on original cars, where the blue is a Last Forte, based on LX or even is equal to LX spec.
Rear end shape actually never changed through its life and they have the same profiles, but the front had the big change in 1998. Doors will swap across between cars, and the front end will swap across too, but we know this as we have seen some mixed models and ages on Xantias for sale on ebay before now.
Inside had more changes to the eye...
S1 Interior Dash...
S2 Interior Dash..
S1 Centre Console
S2 Centre Console
As the S2 had manual windows and no sunroof, thats the reason for he absent centre console switch's.
S1 Front Door cards, with NO Deep door pocket..
S2 Front Door pocket with the "handy" door pocket.
S2 door cards will fit S1 doors, BUT theres a slight position difference of the end Fixing screw behind the foldout lid of the deep pocket, so a small mod of a new hole is needed to fit them.. In fitting S1 door cards to S2 doors, the hole is still in the door for the plastic clip for the rear most fixing screw...
S1 Rear door card, featuring electric windows...
S2 Rear door card,
Rear door cards never changed at all through production, and will swap between cars..
The useual power house:
The newer prooven power house:
Note on the S2, the grill, now integrated into the bonnet opens with it..
Other difference's under the skin, were mostly at the front, the rear subframe and rear brakes Never changed, and were all the same on the TD and HDi, ABS was standard on SX early cars and VSX and an option on LX, by 1998 S2 it was standard on LX upwards also Fog Lights became standard on S2 cars. Both mirrors on the SX S1 are electric, on the S2 LX the passenger mirror only was electric. NOTE: S2 cars from SX upwards had both mirrors electric, and rear electric windows.
Air Con was an S1 car option to 1996/7 where it became standard across the range with no cost option sunroof instead of A/c.
The S2 cars had it as standard and no sunroff (except exclusive)
Anyway, thanks for reading, Hope I havent BOARD you too much...
Boardom, or what ever you want to call it, im not sure, but while I had a chance, I done a quick First and Last Xantia comparison...
The white Xantia is a XUd 1.9 TD SX model.. The blue car is a HDi 110bhp "Forte" model
This was because I happen to have the Sinker project and mums Y reg cars both on her drive at the same time...
Some external comparisons to start with..
Showing the nose mod, the rear lamp change, and the change from grey door moulds to colour coded.
The white car is a SX, mid spec on original cars, where the blue is a Last Forte, based on LX or even is equal to LX spec.
Rear end shape actually never changed through its life and they have the same profiles, but the front had the big change in 1998. Doors will swap across between cars, and the front end will swap across too, but we know this as we have seen some mixed models and ages on Xantias for sale on ebay before now.
Inside had more changes to the eye...
S1 Interior Dash...
S2 Interior Dash..
S1 Centre Console
S2 Centre Console
As the S2 had manual windows and no sunroof, thats the reason for he absent centre console switch's.
S1 Front Door cards, with NO Deep door pocket..
S2 Front Door pocket with the "handy" door pocket.
S2 door cards will fit S1 doors, BUT theres a slight position difference of the end Fixing screw behind the foldout lid of the deep pocket, so a small mod of a new hole is needed to fit them.. In fitting S1 door cards to S2 doors, the hole is still in the door for the plastic clip for the rear most fixing screw...
S1 Rear door card, featuring electric windows...
S2 Rear door card,
Rear door cards never changed at all through production, and will swap between cars..
The useual power house:
The newer prooven power house:
Note on the S2, the grill, now integrated into the bonnet opens with it..
Other difference's under the skin, were mostly at the front, the rear subframe and rear brakes Never changed, and were all the same on the TD and HDi, ABS was standard on SX early cars and VSX and an option on LX, by 1998 S2 it was standard on LX upwards also Fog Lights became standard on S2 cars. Both mirrors on the SX S1 are electric, on the S2 LX the passenger mirror only was electric. NOTE: S2 cars from SX upwards had both mirrors electric, and rear electric windows.
Air Con was an S1 car option to 1996/7 where it became standard across the range with no cost option sunroof instead of A/c.
The S2 cars had it as standard and no sunroff (except exclusive)
Anyway, thanks for reading, Hope I havent BOARD you too much...
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
The one on the Vent is a Parrot Hands Free Bluetooth Kit, theres also reversing sensors on the car...
By the way, the Blue car IS FOR SALE!!!
By the way, the Blue car IS FOR SALE!!!
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Paul, if you’re bored go and do some spannering on one of your XMs
Interesting comparison though... First and last really are a world apart in my experience. I've owned both and a lot in between...
Just like the early and late XM. Totally different cars really.
Interesting comparison though... First and last really are a world apart in my experience. I've owned both and a lot in between...
Just like the early and late XM. Totally different cars really.
Jim
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
and the mk2 is the best.
(couldn't resist that one)
(couldn't resist that one)
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
I agree chris even the headlights are vastley improoved over the mk.1...
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Yes, a much better car.Chris570 wrote:and the mk2 is the best.
(couldn't resist that one)
Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Very nice read Paul. Those things are all the stuff I never notice or remember in a car. Like coming back from someones house I cannot tell you their wallpaper or curtain colour. I had all those incarnations of Xantia............and I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
I just read that, love all that info not that it is any use to me.
Well done.
Well done.
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
I could of carriied on with more info... but where do you stop..
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Although there's no massive differences between them, it's amazing how the subtle changes to the blue series 2 make it look a much nicer, more modern car.
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
I've only just read this and found it really interesting. You did it really well with photos illustrating the points you make, this should be turned into a permanent resourse. Perhaps it could be added to & other Citroens written up as well.
Thank you!
(sorry if this sounds patronising, it really is not meant to!)
Thank you!
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Sorry S1 is the bestChris570 wrote:and the mk2 is the best.
(couldn't resist that one)
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Wwwwwwoooooowwwwww STOP RIGHT NOW...
This is not going to be a debate.. i simply had the two cars side by side and drew up an idea of pointing out while i had the chance to show first and last side by side ...
This is not going to be a debate.. i simply had the two cars side by side and drew up an idea of pointing out while i had the chance to show first and last side by side ...
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Ok Paulcitroenxm wrote:Wwwwwwoooooowwwwww STOP RIGHT NOW...
This is not going to be a debate.. i simply had the two cars side by side and drew up an idea of pointing out while i had the chance to show first and last side by side ...
It's interesting with the pictures of the under bonnet, mine looks like the Series 1 of course without the electronic box etc , but I have the same fuse box as the later car? As far as I know its never been changed as it was only 5 years old when I bought it?
I wonder why there are different designs?
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Re: First and Last Xantia Comparison
Only early cars had the tacky "top cover" over the fuse box which changed on M reg .. what year is yours mark?
My L reg anti sinker xantia has the top cover too but ive seen M reg cars with the later full size box..
My L reg anti sinker xantia has the top cover too but ive seen M reg cars with the later full size box..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto