Oil filter part number assistance please

[spider]

Posting here as it is a Citroën specific question, well the part is.

I've just done another quick oil change on the trusty 106D and the filter I've had floating around for a few months was an AL code.

I thought that the Citroën equivalent of the Peugeot filter (1109T0) was a T1 ?

Is the AL an older filter (old stock?) unless part numbers have changed in the past few years.

It used to be (Peugeot) N2 for the older cars on the shorter intervals and T0 for the larger intervals ie post 98, I think Citroën would of been N1 (or N3) and T1 respectively.

Not too important although really I wanted to know if the AL is an older filter than the T series or not and if so I assume its the 'long intervals' filter, not that it matters as I'd not leave oil in a TUD for 10K anyway. 5/6K changes for me.

[citronut]

this is what it gives for a 1.5 TUD saxo on service citroen

01
1109 N3
RP 1109 AP
OIL FILTER
LS 867 B

i think the LS No. is a purflux No.

[spider]

Thanks Malcolm, just a bit confused as its a genuine filter and its marked 1109AL

I'd have to assume its an earlier one or something (equivalent to the N2 Peugeot one) as I know later / longer intervals have the T0 (T1?) one fitted.

As best as I could tell from some examination a long time ago, the later 'long intervals' filters do not appear to filter as much (speculation)

No matter really as I'll be doing the changes at 5 or 6 K or six months (as I have done) regardless.

EDIT... Can you have a quick look if you don't mind at a TUD5B unit ? If it lists a different one for that that is.

[citronut]

1109AL comes back as fitting all these models in an all family search

also that No. Superseded to 1109T1

5 document(s) found for XSARA II
7 document(s) found for C5
2 document(s) found for XANTIA II
4 document(s) found for BERLINGO (M59)
1 document(s) found for DS3
4 document(s) found for XSARA
1 document(s) found for C5 (X7)
1 document(s) found for RELAY
2 document(s) found for C4
3 document(s) found for C5 II
6 document(s) found for BERLINGO
1 document(s) found for C15
19 document(s) found for DISPATCH I & II
4 document(s) found for C8
4 document(s) found for BERLINGO (M59)
1 document(s) found for C-ELYSEE
1 document(s) found for C6
6 document(s) found for XSARA PICASSO
1 document(s) found for DS5
4 document(s) found for SYNERGIE
2 document(s) found for C3 (A51)
4 document(s) found for RELAY II


and clicking on XSARA 2 gives these engine options

Function
INJECTION EW10J4
DW8B DIESEL AND EEC 2000 DEPOLL (ENGINE) AND AIR CONDITIONING
TURBO DIESEL DW10TD AND AIR CONDITIONING OR DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL AND AIR CONDITIONING
TURBO DIESEL DW10TD AND WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING
DW8B DIESEL AND EEC 2000 DEPOLL (ENGINE) AND WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING

cant see any mention of any of the TUD variations

[spider]

Ah thanks perfect, that does explain it.

I could not look myself (not being lazy) as I only have Peugeot data.

It seems is the earlier filter (but for 'longer invervals') for the larger engines.

Given on the Peugeot models it was N2 for the servicing up to about 98 then T0 for later models (longer intervals) I guess Citroen changed numbers again from T1 possibly Peugeot did too after I left, no matter then as I see it is suitable given that it would of been used to the earlier ones and there was no difference on Peugeot at that time.

[citronut]

if you register on these two sites you can get all this info and more yourself

http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://service.citroen.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's what comes up for a TUD5 on pug service box

1
1109 N2
RP 1109 AP
OIL FILTER
-
UNTIL RPO 07874
1109 T0
RP 1109 AL
PURFLUX- -
- SINCE RPO 07875

and this is an all family search with part No. 1109 AP

amongst these models there are XUD engines

13 document(s) found for 405
3 document(s) found for 605
10 document(s) found for 205 FROM MOD 1991
6 document(s) found for BOXER
11 document(s) found for 806
15 document(s) found for 306
15 document(s) found for 106 RESTYLING
10 document(s) found for 205
9 document(s) found for PARTNER
13 document(s) found for 605
4 document(s) found for 405 SAUF RESTYL
4 document(s) found for 309
12 document(s) found for 106
13 document(s) found for 306 (RESTYLING)
12 document(s) found for 406
6 document(s) found for EXPERT
2 document(s) found for J5-Express

[spider]

Thanks.

I do have a Peugeot servicebox account although I did not check it (sorry) thinking that filter was going to be only shown for Citroen models.

[Ironman]

I have recently come across some anomalies with oil filters for the TUD5 engine and I can't find a solid answer. I used to buy Purflux LS867B supplied by Citroen dealers.
This time I bought a Mann-Hummel filter and was supplied with a W716/1 but, when I checked the Mann-Hummel catalogue it lists the W712/8 upto model year 99 and then the W716/1 from Model year 99 onwards for the VJY engine code but, for a VJZ Engine code Lists the W712/8 only. There is no filter listed for the VJX engine code.

The W712/8 cross references to the Purflux LS867B and the W716/1 cross references to the Purflux LS923.

I'm tempted just to leave the W716/1 on the engine as I've fitted it and driven the car about 50miles since.