Hello Citroenists.
I was wondering....
Does a 1997 Xantia TD have a Bosch diesel pump ?
Regards
Chris
97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Sticking my kneck out I would say probably not, unless it was registered late.
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
If its any help:
If it was a 406 then its 99% certain it would have a Bosch pump, however the Xantia earlier models did not have an electronic advance as far as I know whereas all 406's did.
If it was a 406 then its 99% certain it would have a Bosch pump, however the Xantia earlier models did not have an electronic advance as far as I know whereas all 406's did.
Andy.
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Thanks for the replies....
The reason I asked was because I wanted to know if i could run it on Veg oil....
And I was under the impression that a Bosch pump was the only one that would be compatible ??
The reason I asked was because I wanted to know if i could run it on Veg oil....
And I was under the impression that a Bosch pump was the only one that would be compatible ??
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
A Lucas unit won't be up to the job really, or won't last very long.
Andy.
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Oh ok.... Thanks Andy...So its likely to be a Lucas pump which is a no no re veg oil 
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
I'd have thought a 97 Xantia would have a Bosch pump, mine which was built in 96 and has electronic advance does, best to take a look at the pump to make sure.
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
ALL 1.9 TD XUD engines had Bosch Pumps... I ve NEVER seen a TD lump in a Xantia without..
Only 1.9 N/a SD were lucas mechanical, and the 2.1 was Epic...
So go for it!
Only 1.9 N/a SD were lucas mechanical, and the 2.1 was Epic...
So go for it!
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Thank you all gents...
I will go for it citroenxm! I appreciate
You clearing up the ambiguity.
Regards
Chris
I will go for it citroenxm! I appreciate
You clearing up the ambiguity.
Regards
Chris
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
You can tell a Bosch Pump.. they sit high in front of the engine and complete obscure the the Hearter Plug and water pipe to the top of the head on the cam belt side (left side of the head) Theres also a Curcular "Mushroom" sort of device that has a black pipe comming out the side of it to the Air intake Pipes over the top of the engine
The lucas pump a a lower profile type pump, and leans forward a bit more, and has better access to the heater plug forementioned....
But, if it lucas, its been stupidly converted to it, or its the First One EVER I will have seen, If it is lucas.. I have pleanty of Bosch Pumps and injectors, a set just removed from a car Im in the middle of scrapping...
Ive got 4 Xantias with Bosch pumps to sell.... 1 estate and 3 hatchs...
The lucas pump a a lower profile type pump, and leans forward a bit more, and has better access to the heater plug forementioned....
But, if it lucas, its been stupidly converted to it, or its the First One EVER I will have seen, If it is lucas.. I have pleanty of Bosch Pumps and injectors, a set just removed from a car Im in the middle of scrapping...
Ive got 4 Xantias with Bosch pumps to sell.... 1 estate and 3 hatchs...
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Fingers crossed then citroenxm
I really appreciate your advice.
Regards
Chris
I really appreciate your advice.
Regards
Chris
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Apart from a 306 where older shape TD's were Bosch and the newer shape ones were 90% Lucas for some odd reason.
Interestingly the NA 1.9 later shapes were all Bosch...
Andy.
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
Reminds me more of the Starship Enterprise in shape - it's the boost pressure compensator, increases the amount of fuel injected according to the intake boost pressure. The little black pipe commonly splits on the underside resulting in under-fuelling and loss of performance. Tell tale is oil mist over the intake pipe where it joins the inlet manifold.citroenxm wrote:You can tell a Bosch Pump.. theres also a Curcular "Mushroom" sort of device that has a black pipe coming out the side of it to the Air intake Pipes over the top of the engine.
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
I have a 1996 xantia td with a bosch and it runs fine on veg oil .
if you are thinking of using filtered veg oil u will need to monitor/change the fuel filter regularly ,which is easily done .
bearing in mind that veg oil loses viscousity in cold weather and the engine will not start happily anywhere around freezing or below.
In cold weather u can probably get away with 65/35 %diesil/veg, but do make sure from others first .
lucas pumps cant handle it , and will fail before too long , whatever the temprerature .
if you are thinking of using filtered veg oil u will need to monitor/change the fuel filter regularly ,which is easily done .
bearing in mind that veg oil loses viscousity in cold weather and the engine will not start happily anywhere around freezing or below.
In cold weather u can probably get away with 65/35 %diesil/veg, but do make sure from others first .
lucas pumps cant handle it , and will fail before too long , whatever the temprerature .
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1996 zx volcane td
1994 zx volcane td
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Re: 97 R TD BOSCH PUMP?
As said, from what Ive seen, so far EVERY single Xantia TD I have seen has had a Bosch on it... And beleve me, Ive seen a few!! As weel as my own!
And as mentioned, Ive 4 to sell on too!!! All with Bosch
And as mentioned, Ive 4 to sell on too!!! All with Bosch
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto