206 2004 alarm install, anyone with Diag2000!

[avamotor]

Hello French Car Forum members,

I am faced with a minor dilema! I have purchased an alarm for my 206 1.4 HDI (Pug part no 9671.6Q) as its pretty straightforward to plumb in but the end page in the book mentions that it requires DIAG2000 to set it up!!

I have a "clone" that i have used on slightly older cars but as i dont want to destroy the BSI I am reluctant to use the chinese clone, apart from that I only have PP2000 and Lexia. is Diag2000 a completely different setup?

is it an entirely different software package to Planet Peugeot 2000 and therefore PP2000 wont be upto it?

anyone near to Nottinghamshire got one in the garage that they could help me to set mine up, happy to travel to you for the purpose of learning that i need more diagnostic stuff!!!

Thank you

Garry

[citronut]

i own a DIAG 2000 on its trolley and with the harness tester,

but im at the bottom end of the A21 East Sussex,

although the DIS-LEXIA 3 with planet software on board will do all the DIAG 2000 can and all later cars,

look at the link below for a map of all us DIS-LEXIA and DIAG owners on the FCF

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 19&t=29178" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


regards malcolm

[Lighty]

I have Diag 2000, can't see why you would need it on a 206 tbh, it will only be a case of adding the alarm as an Ecu in the BSI configuration. I would give it a blast.

[avamotor]

Hello Citronut and Lighty,

Thanks for the reply's super grateful for that, I am on the map for Lexia and PP2000, but not for Diag2000.

The 12th page of the installation booklet states:-

"The system is designed to integrate to the vehicle mulitplex system and therefore not operate until the "matching procedure" has been completed and the components are identified by th BSI.

To achieve this, it will be necessary to have the DIAG2000 diagnostic equipment equipped with CD 02.D or later.

Using the DIAG2000 system:

connect the diagnostic socket to the vehicle and follow insturction, blah blah CONSULTATION BY VEHICLE program

blah blah ACCESSORIES program

Blah Alarm option

Select other countries??????

Select interior trim and type of vehcile????

confirm parameters, alarm present , press NO button????

validate

CUSTOMER OPTIONS?

ALARM OPTIONS as PRESENT and the BELGIUM OPTION as ABSENT
Follow on-screen instructions to quit - the system is now configured."

Do i ever feel sorry for the people of belgium! Sorry about the blahs above but it seemed like an awful lot of work and unnecessary detail, but viva le France!

I havent ever been fortunate enough to have a go on DIAG2000 to work out why the trim level is important but I had previously retro fitted a ~T reg 406 HDI estate with the alarm components from a Coupe and switched the on via Planet Peugeot 2000 but as someone pointed out "clones" have the potential to fry the BSI i felt somewhat reluctant due to the thought my 206 could suffer (or theres a 50% chance it wont!!! ) .

So to clarify as long as PP2000 will change to present for alarm, trim etc?? it doesent specifically carry out any diagnostic on the car? and the matching procedure (no pincode with alarm) just switch it on and all should be well?

Also out of sheer curiousity, without imposing on you, if i dont feel like wanting to destroy my BSI where in Derbyshire are you and How much do you accept towards your favorite "Charity Beer supplier" to just "Switch it on"?

Please feel free to email, a very grateful Pug 206 owner

[citronut]

i think it depends on were/who you purchased your clown whooops clone from, i have bought one of the DIS-LEXIA 3's through the FCF bulk buy option via DickieG, which are spozed to have sorted software, although i still don't think mine is functioning correctly as it dosnt seem to allow me to go futher than fault description's???????

if i get this DIS LEXIA 3 to work fully i mught sell the DIAG 2000,

regards malcolm

[Lighty]

Not sure about the frying of a BSI tbh, my hardware is oe, but t he software isn't, and I can do anything with it, if you have turned on the alarm on a 406, it should do the 206 just fine. According to the instructions you are given, it's just a case of ticking a cople of boxes in the BSI config, as I suspected.

[Toby_HDi]

Doesn't look like its been mentioned...

PP2000 (which I believe you have) is simply a later generation of software and is pretty much the same as the DIAG2000. The difference is the PP2000 runs on a laptop and the DIAG2000 on a purpose built machine.

Other than some visual changes the menus on both machines are pretty much the same. I see no reason why the PP2000 clone would not program the alarm. As mentioned, its simple a case of selecting the alarm option to 'Present'.

[citronut]

the other difference is the DIAG 2000/DIS-LEXIA 2 cant do multiplex were the pug planet/DIS-LEXIA 3 can,

regards malcolm

[Toby_HDi]

the other difference is the DIAG 2000/DIS-LEXIA 2 cant do multiplex were the pug planet/DIS-LEXIA 3 can,

regards malcolm

I politely beg to differ Malcolm. Mike's DIAG2000 was used successfully in my own Coupé, which had partial multiplex, as well as later models which were fully multiplexed. I recall it was also used on other multiplexed models too.

[citronut]

thats strange Toby as my DIAG 2000 is the pug equivalent to the DIS-LEXIA 2,

regards malcolm

[Toby_HDi]

thats strange Toby as my DIAG 2000 is the pug equivalent to the DIS-LEXIA 2,

regards malcolm

Indeed, as was Mike's. Maybe there are some tiny differences between the software or you don't have the latest version (which I'm sure you probably have)

[DickieG]

the other difference is the DIAG 2000/DIS-LEXIA 2 cant do multiplex were the pug planet/DIS-LEXIA 3 can

That's not correct Malcolm, otherwise a Lexia 2 wouldn't work on a C5 which they do. With the use on an additional interface a Lexia 2 will also work on C5 Mk2 models.

[citronut]

my DIAG 2000 has software to cover models up to 2007 but even though it would/could read the later cars it would not let me go any further than the fault description's,

maybe im doing something wrong, as my DIS-LEXIA 3/PUG PLANET is doing similar


regards malcolm

[avamotor]

Hello FCF members,

Thank you for the many replies regarding this, I didnt know that Planet Peugeot 2000 was a laptop (replacement) version for the purpose built DIAG2000 so straight away I have learnt something else of use, the actual "physical installation" stated to take only 1.8 hours!

Actualy took 1.8 days and during installation I was suprised by existing wiring connections still on the car i.e. for bonnet pin switch connector and also siren too although still not needed for this install.

Apart from me breaking the clip holding on one of the grey plastic plugs with 2 wires onto the BSI, so that will be a scrapyard replacement, but this install was way easier than the 406 HDI. if i hold the same level of confidence as i did for the 406 HDI with part mux and following the advice above then, my "clone" should hopefully setup the 206 HDI the same without killing the BSI.

only need to wait for the new replacement drivers side door latch to get rid of the error message on starting up of "right door open" despite the door is firmly shut, apparently the new part has only 5 wires on the latch as opposed to 6 wires on my car, and i was advised/informed by Peugeot to buy a replacement plug and contacts too, this should then prevent trigger the alarm every time its armed.

Anyone know where the microswitch is within the latch to do a temporary repair? anyone took one apart for me to find the offending item?

Thank you for your help all the same.

Garry

[citronut]

although i know the later cit/pug's do suffer with lock mechanism faliure and they don't intended them to come apart,
the other posabilaty is you might have broken wire/s in the door shut, were the loom runs between the A post and door,

regards malcolm