Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
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pete the bus
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Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
My girlfriends 1.9TD SX Estate has just failed its MOT on the following:
1. Anti-roll bar(top) ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt.
2. Anti-lock braking system warning lamp indicates an ABS fault.
With the 1st one I have no idea where they mean. I've looked at the Haynes manual but it doesn't help. Anybody know? And is it a difficult job?
The 2nd one I guess its a sensor at fault?
Any advice, help, ideas, much appreciated.
Peter
1. Anti-roll bar(top) ball joint dust cover excessively deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt.
2. Anti-lock braking system warning lamp indicates an ABS fault.
With the 1st one I have no idea where they mean. I've looked at the Haynes manual but it doesn't help. Anybody know? And is it a difficult job?
The 2nd one I guess its a sensor at fault?
Any advice, help, ideas, much appreciated.
Peter
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jgra1
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Re: Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
hmmm
Pete, I would guess the top of the drop link, has a split boot?
funnily enough I have a drop link delivered this am.. gsf, about £12 I think..
I will fit after work
ABS, almost certainly a sensor, there is a way of checking which one, by using a mulimeter at the ABS ecu in the engine bay.. back ones are a bit of a fiddle, fronts not so bad..
John
Pete, I would guess the top of the drop link, has a split boot?
funnily enough I have a drop link delivered this am.. gsf, about £12 I think..
I will fit after work
ABS, almost certainly a sensor, there is a way of checking which one, by using a mulimeter at the ABS ecu in the engine bay.. back ones are a bit of a fiddle, fronts not so bad..
John
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pete the bus
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Re: Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
Thanks John.
I have just 'phoned the MOT garage and they confirm what you say - it is the top joint of the drop link.
I have just 'phoned the MOT garage and they confirm what you say - it is the top joint of the drop link.
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Re: Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
is deffo the the drop link boot, was a fail as of 1st jan, advisory prior too! mine failed on top one both sides,
After All, I am the Cornish one!
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ABS Fault diagnosis is simple. You need a multimeter to measure the resistance valuespete the bus wrote:...
2. Anti-lock braking system warning lamp indicates an ABS fault.
but first it would be good to read this thread ---> Xantia ABS Sensor.
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i just did my droplink!
3 mins and a 19mm socket, and a 19mm ratch spanner, and a jack.. !!
very happy!
3 mins and a 19mm socket, and a 19mm ratch spanner, and a jack.. !!
very happy!
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Your lucky! Mine were Goosed! Even with full car weight on them the ball joint spindles span round! And with a decent allen key they rounded out the insides! Hehe! Half an hour before I made a grinder out of my machine polisher! 
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jgra1
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Re: Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
usually grind them off Timmo.. this one was so new though! no allen in it either.. maybe it was a cheapy
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pete the bus
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Re: Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
I have already ordered a new drop link from ebay. £5.38 inc. p&P ! (just re-checked - £5.25 actually!)
Should I follow the instructions in the Haynes BOL for removing the drop link, or is there another way?
As for the ABS problem, I have a multimeter, so will have a look over the weekend. If it turns out to be a faulty sensor, can anyone suggest a suitable replacement? Is it worth trying the scrappy for a 2nd hand one?
Should I follow the instructions in the Haynes BOL for removing the drop link, or is there another way?
As for the ABS problem, I have a multimeter, so will have a look over the weekend. If it turns out to be a faulty sensor, can anyone suggest a suitable replacement? Is it worth trying the scrappy for a 2nd hand one?
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What make drop link though? There are cheap ones that last no time.
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pete the bus
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This one:Xac wrote:What make drop link though? There are cheap ones that last no time.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150504771682? ... 1497.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If it lasts 5,000 miles it will do her for another year!
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There are several different sensors fitted according to manufacture date of the vehicle, some are eye-wateringly expensive.pete the bus wrote: As for the ABS problem, I have a multimeter, so will have a look over the weekend. If it turns out to be a faulty sensor, can anyone suggest a suitable replacement? Is it worth trying the scrappy for a 2nd hand one?
GSF often have the best price, but check ebay once you know which sort you need.
A front sensor may be recyclable, but a rear sensor is not, because they corrode into their holder.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280757195233? ... 97.c0.m619" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Got one of these, it seems to be decent quality. Chap stocks sensors for S2 cars as well. I have no affiliation with him.
Got one of these, it seems to be decent quality. Chap stocks sensors for S2 cars as well. I have no affiliation with him.
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the easyest way is firstly make sure the new one comes with new nuts,
then use an angle grinder with a cutting disc and slice straight down the centre of the swivle pin and nut, i find this is the quickest and easyest method,
but be carefull not the cut into the ARB or the braket on the strut,
regards malcolm
then use an angle grinder with a cutting disc and slice straight down the centre of the swivle pin and nut, i find this is the quickest and easyest method,
but be carefull not the cut into the ARB or the braket on the strut,
regards malcolm
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Re: Xantia MOT fail - your help needed please
In my experience, drop links either come off easily (soak the threads in lots of PlusGas, then a good scrub with a wire brush some hours later) or it's an angle-grinder job.
As for the ABS sensor, the usual suspect is the O/S/F - its the connection at the ABS ECU plug-'n-socket that corrodes - clean up thoroughly before thinking about changing an expensive sensor (which won't fix the problem anyway).
As for the ABS sensor, the usual suspect is the O/S/F - its the connection at the ABS ECU plug-'n-socket that corrodes - clean up thoroughly before thinking about changing an expensive sensor (which won't fix the problem anyway).
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