Clips - Engine covers and trays

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 09:27

When I cleaned the engine cover during the oil change I did yesterday, I noticed it was free of the engine with the clips on!!!! Basically the rubberised shafts of all but one of the retaining bolts had sheared (Edit - these are referred to as dampers). Is this common?

Here are the clips, but their corresponding retainers (Edit - or dampers) are shafted

:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0682654231

Edit - just found similar on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-HDi-E ... 4cf7958253

I've also lost a few retainers from the "engine undershielding" These are the slotted mushroom headed clips (called buttons) that have grab shafts. I don't know if we're meant to push up and twist these by just a few degrees (tend to push and twist 45-90 degrees), but I've got only a few left out of how many? (Edit - Should be 6). Of course the 4 small bolts that do the bulk of the retaining are fine (Edit - should be 6 of these also).

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 09:55

Here we go:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CITROEN-C4-C5 ... 4cf3279cd9

Just need to source the undershield clips.

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 09:59

Quite a common problem according to Citroen Brum. Loads in stock at £4.79 each for the dampers and £1.79 for the clips. The above kit seems a good choice.

Gibbo2286 · Unread post by **Gibbo2286** » 24 Aug 2011, 10:15

I bought a set of those for my C5 last week seem ok so far.

What I need to finish this car is the undertray from under the engine, it was missing when I bought the car and seems pretty difficult to find in the breakers.

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 10:26

Gibbo2286 wrote:I bought a set of those for my C5 last week seem ok so far.

What I need to finish this car is the undertray from under the engine, it was missing when I bought the car and seems pretty difficult to find in the breakers.

I wonder if there are loads of oily undetrays in people's garages - left as awkward asides from various oil changes?

HDI · Unread post by **HDI** » 24 Aug 2011, 10:36

If there are I would like one please !! The engine undertray doesn't need to be removed for an oil change, there is a little hatch for access to the drain plug and the filter is removed from above.

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 10:40

HDI wrote:If there are I would like one please !! The engine undertray doesn't need to be removed for an oil change, there is a little hatch for access to the drain plug and the filter is removed from above.

Is that right? Never noticed (duh). Perhaps because of the amount of oil

Will take a look. But how do you get the oil to drain? Funnel? If it's awkward, then I'm happy to take the undershield off once a year.

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 10:44

Pretty certain there's no flap on my undertray which has to be removed to facilitate oil change.

Unread post by **RichardW** » 24 Aug 2011, 12:12

No flap on either my Xantia or Picasso. Both undertrays are in the garage, the fasteners having rusted up (Xantia) or failed (Picasso). My earlier Xantias did have flaps but they were front hinged so a right PITA to operate when changing oil on the drive, rather than on a 4 post lift

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 24 Aug 2011, 12:16

I replaced the ones on my 406 when I first had it with some from ebay - they lasted about three weeks.

Peter

Clogzz · Unread post by **Clogzz** » 24 Aug 2011, 12:51

The buttons with grab shafts ... item 10 part 703016 ... must be firmly pushed straight in without twisting them.
Turning by a ¼ turn loosens them.
C5’s don’t have flaps.

Gibbo2286 · Unread post by **Gibbo2286** » 24 Aug 2011, 13:12

I haven't got a flap, I haven't got a tray

It seems that they either get thrown away by "that's near enough" mechanics or they're the first thing wrecked in an accident.

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 24 Aug 2011, 13:21

i find doing an oil and filter change with the tray fitted makes one heck of a mess,

regards malcolm

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 13:39

Peter.N. wrote:I replaced the ones on my 406 when I first had it with some from ebay - they lasted about three weeks.

Peter

Well they can have 'em back if that happens to mine!!!

frenchcarnut · Unread post by **frenchcarnut** » 24 Aug 2011, 13:46

Clogzz wrote:The buttons with grab shafts ... item 10 part 703016 ... must be firmly pushed straight in without twisting them.
Turning by a ¼ turn loosens them.
C5’s don’t have flaps.

My retainers are probably worn then. I shall purchase those too.