Head Bolts ??

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 22 Aug 2011, 11:12

I had a look on fleabay for head bolt sets for a 1905cc xud diesel and sellers on there seem to like selling individual bolts WTF.
Anyone got a recommendation for head gasket and bolts suppliers.
And to make it easier for them should i give engine numbers rather than reg number details as engines do get changed ?.
Are gaskets and bolts the same on turbo and non turbo.
Should I be using male or female torx bolts as it looks like there are both types.

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 22 Aug 2011, 14:54

The male torx bolts are DW8, XUD's have normal torx (after about 89 I think) or normal bolts before that.

I'd get on engine number personally.

Gaskets are not the same as far as I know. Watch out if buying one for an earlier model as there is such a thing as a 1.8XUDT as well...

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 22 Aug 2011, 15:02

Thanks Andy,I've seen the 1800 thing come up what engine was that one.
Was it the 68hp one be lucky to pull the skin off a rice pudding with that one LOL.
Interesting about the fact that they are different turbo and non turbo,thought they would be the same.

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 22 Aug 2011, 15:05

Could not find a picture easily ! , although these sort are the ones you're after:

Note that's probably not an XUD bolt, but that style of head.

jgra1 · Unread post by **jgra1** » 22 Aug 2011, 15:12

the 1800 was the ?1768cc .. in turbo/lucas form a quick little engine

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 22 Aug 2011, 16:12

Indeed, I had one

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 22 Aug 2011, 19:27

female torx bolt, mine are currently male torx but does it matter i suspect not.
Hopefully someone will come up with a good supplier or two this evening.
What was the 1800 used in.
These seem a good price?.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... FP:GB:1123

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 22 Aug 2011, 20:22

Just found these ones on fleabay these are the male version which are fitted as standard or am i wrong on this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CITROEN-BX-BE ... 3a665f3df2

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 22 Aug 2011, 20:39

I think just the head is different, although the first link is like the pic I posted and the same as I fitted to my 205. The second link look like DW8 ones, but I've not seen a Citroen XUD for ages (years) so not sure.

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 22 Aug 2011, 20:45

The second type are the same in my 96 xantia my 98 dispatch my sons 98 dispatch and the engine he bought out of a zx.

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 24 Aug 2011, 09:23

Just found this is it a misprint or maybe he thinks they are worth the extra money.
10 bolts and the gasket cost would make it a costly repair to any engine.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400159044814? ... 1423.l2649

jgra1 · Unread post by **jgra1** » 24 Aug 2011, 11:02

What was the 1800 used in.

at least the 309 and 205 TD's I think wotwot.. may have found its way into early 405's?

John

wotwot · Unread post by **wotwot** » 24 Aug 2011, 11:09

Dont see many of them for sale now.
was the 1905cc based on this engine or was it a new design after the 1800cc.

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 24 Aug 2011, 11:37

jgra1 wrote:
What was the 1800 used in.
at least the 309 and 205 TD's I think wotwot.. may have found its way into early 405's?

John

309TD was 1.8 / 205TD was 1.8, early (pre 92 or 91) 405TD was 1.8, probably early BX's were too.

309 + 205 lacked intercooler too.

Unread post by **RichardW** » 24 Aug 2011, 12:08

All BXs TDs were 1.8 (Citroen badged it 1.7...!) Seemingly a better engine than the 1.9 - always easier to start, and more free revving - the 1.9 produces a bit more torque, hence its use in later / heavier cars.

Head gasket job on a BX TD (which they ruined for fun!) was not for the feint hearted