Ive been on the forum a few times about the key plips sometime they work and sometime they dont, well the other week I clicked on to a super sticky about guys with Lexia machines who would try and diagnose problems I contacted Colin in Falkirk and met him and he checked the car for me and the only thing that came up when he clicked on remote locking was fault with left side door button he then suggested I ask on the forum for some further help thanks
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It depends upon what exactly the problem is but one suggestion I can give you is that I have come across a couple of times now is a poor connection where the block connector plugs into the door lock causing the central locking to immediately unlock after locking, on each occasion its been on the N/S/F door. To gain access you need to remove the door card etc.
When checking the plip with the Lexia was the parameters screen observed when the plips were fired, if so what state was each door lock shown to be in when the car was locked/unlocked?
When checking the plip with the Lexia was the parameters screen observed when the plips were fired, if so what state was each door lock shown to be in when the car was locked/unlocked?
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Hi DickieG,
I've only just been pointed in the direction of this thread, thanks for the reply.
This was the first series 2 car I had plugged the lexia into, wasn't aware there were details on the lock/unlock situation on the parameters screen, I simply ran full scan over it, didn't observe the parameters, hopefully I will get the chance to have a look at this at our next meeting. (Last Thursday of every month at The Stables in Kirkintilloch - all welcome)
The details on the fault did say N/S/F door where the fault was, so this does souond likely to be the cause.
Thanks,
Colin.
I've only just been pointed in the direction of this thread, thanks for the reply.
This was the first series 2 car I had plugged the lexia into, wasn't aware there were details on the lock/unlock situation on the parameters screen, I simply ran full scan over it, didn't observe the parameters, hopefully I will get the chance to have a look at this at our next meeting. (Last Thursday of every month at The Stables in Kirkintilloch - all welcome)
The details on the fault did say N/S/F door where the fault was, so this does souond likely to be the cause.
Thanks,
Colin.
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Sorry to hijack this but just thought of somethign when I read it. Is there any way to get a later Citroen Plip to work with a Xantia with an RF system? The Xantia fob are too delicate, what with the buttons mounted side on to the board. When I got mine, both unlock buttons were broken off. Bit of solderign fixed them but now one has broken off again.
Any chance somethign liek one of these could be made work ?
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Any chance somethign liek one of these could be made work ?
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RF = radio frequency/signals, same thing.Stekelly wrote:SII Xantias (well mine anywya, not sure when the change came) use RFDickieG wrote:I very much doubt it, the early system works on infra red whereas the later uses radio signals, so unless you change all the relevant components,,,,
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I know yeah. Have we crossed wires here?DickieG wrote:RF = radio frequency/signals, same thing.Stekelly wrote:SII Xantias (well mine anywya, not sure when the change came) use RFDickieG wrote:I very much doubt it, the early system works on infra red whereas the later uses radio signals, so unless you change all the relevant components,,,,
I asked if they could be made work as both the Xantia and the later C2/3/4/5 etc fobs are rf, to which you replied " very much doubt it, the early system works on infra red whereas the later uses radio signals, so unless you change all the relevant components,,,," which I took to mean you saying all Xantias are IR and the fobs for later cars are RF.
So to come right back around, is there a reason why a later RF fob, say from a C4 or C5 couldnt be made operate a SII (RF)Xantia.
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Apologies I got the wrong idea of what the nature of your questions was. With later remote's, the key that is attached to the fob is of a different shape to those used on Xantia's but as to whether the remote can be made to work I don't know. The best person to ask that question to will be 'Wheeler'
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The earliest Citroen RF sets that I am aware of are the Mk2 XM ones introduced in mid 1994.
These were effectively hard coded as complete sets and not reprogrammable or capable of making up as mixed sets.
Only paired working Plips and receivers can be swapped between cars to get working results.
Some of the later types of Citroen RF sets use the same wiring and functionallity. One of my XM's is now fitted with a NOS (new old stock) Synergy set which just plugged in and worked.
There has been quite a bit of electronics change over the years and the aftermarket Chinese RF sets now available can be reprogrammed.
Not sure how Citroen evolved their designs.
With the XM the RF set was a main security item hence the hard coding.
With later Citroen models chip controlled ignition took over this function and RF set security became much less critical so RF reprogramming may be possible.
John
These were effectively hard coded as complete sets and not reprogrammable or capable of making up as mixed sets.
Only paired working Plips and receivers can be swapped between cars to get working results.
Some of the later types of Citroen RF sets use the same wiring and functionallity. One of my XM's is now fitted with a NOS (new old stock) Synergy set which just plugged in and worked.
There has been quite a bit of electronics change over the years and the aftermarket Chinese RF sets now available can be reprogrammed.
Not sure how Citroen evolved their designs.
With the XM the RF set was a main security item hence the hard coding.
With later Citroen models chip controlled ignition took over this function and RF set security became much less critical so RF reprogramming may be possible.
John
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