My Xantia greeted me this morning with the drivers window dropping when I shut the door !! Operating the window switch does nothing and the window feels like it's not connected to the mechanism. I've had to jam it closed with some cardboard to prevent it dropping down when driving.
I can't look at it until later as I'm busy on a job but could anyone say if this is a known issue and what the problem may be, or what I'm likely to find when I remove the door card ?
Drivers window dropped !!
Moderator: RichardW
Drivers window dropped !!
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
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Series 2?? Then the cables are much thinner then S1 and most likely rotted through.. OR the plastic clip has popped off the end of the wire...
Those are the two only likely things..
And as shes an Exclusive, they are unique winders to S2 cars becuase they have One touch WITH anti sink which is built into the motor... and features a different plug.. so only an S2 winder will do... Luckily being drivers door, ALL S2 cars had anti pinch fitted on the drivers ONLY, exclusive being the only one to have it on all four doors, meaning the other three are harder to find.
Paul
Those are the two only likely things..
And as shes an Exclusive, they are unique winders to S2 cars becuase they have One touch WITH anti sink which is built into the motor... and features a different plug.. so only an S2 winder will do... Luckily being drivers door, ALL S2 cars had anti pinch fitted on the drivers ONLY, exclusive being the only one to have it on all four doors, meaning the other three are harder to find.
Paul
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
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M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Cheers for that Paul. If the cable has gone does that mean a new mech assembly is the easiest fix ?
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
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There is another way to fix this problem
I also have a S2 Xantia estate exclusive where the same thing happened to the driver's window. It turned out to be a disintegrating plastic clip, due to age hardening by the look of the plastic.
You might find that the cables are fine, I did.
If you do a search on eBay for window regulators you'll find several companies selling that plastic clip for around £7 to £10. It is not available separately from the stealer, they'd rather charge you £200 plus for the complete regulator.
I actually bought my clips from an eBay supplier in Turkey called Sesuya. Prompt service and cost about £7 per clip including postage late last year.
Happy spannering,
Ted
I also have a S2 Xantia estate exclusive where the same thing happened to the driver's window. It turned out to be a disintegrating plastic clip, due to age hardening by the look of the plastic.
You might find that the cables are fine, I did.
If you do a search on eBay for window regulators you'll find several companies selling that plastic clip for around £7 to £10. It is not available separately from the stealer, they'd rather charge you £200 plus for the complete regulator.
I actually bought my clips from an eBay supplier in Turkey called Sesuya. Prompt service and cost about £7 per clip including postage late last year.
Happy spannering,
Ted
Ted
2010 C5 2.0 diesel(163) Exclusive Tourer (119,290miles)
1999 Xantia Exclusive Estate 110 Hdi Mauritius Blue with self peeling lacquer finish (276,174miles)
1991 XM Prestige 2.0 Auto(157,000 miles) gone but not forgotten
2010 C5 2.0 diesel(163) Exclusive Tourer (119,290miles)
1999 Xantia Exclusive Estate 110 Hdi Mauritius Blue with self peeling lacquer finish (276,174miles)
1991 XM Prestige 2.0 Auto(157,000 miles) gone but not forgotten
my R reg 1.9TD did this on saterday morning when her in doors was cleaning the windows, so mine is now with a lump of timber inside the door under the glass,
with the trim off i could see a length of cable dangling around in the bottom of the door,
it is a late MK1 and has the one touch option,
regards malcolm
with the trim off i could see a length of cable dangling around in the bottom of the door,
it is a late MK1 and has the one touch option,
regards malcolm
Seems the anti sink valve in the motor is knackered if your glass drops overnightthey are unique winders to S2 cars becuase they have One touch WITH anti sink which is built into the motor
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Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
OK, the problem has been located. After removing the door card and moisture membrane 2 cable ends were discovered loose in the bottom of the door, nice !
Subsequent to disconnecting the the window from the lifter mechanism and then removing the mechanism from the door I found the cables had jumped of the slider block that raises and lowers the window.
After spending an hour or so working out how to rewind the cables onto the motor drum and thread them around the pulleys etc, I then did a dummy test with the mech out of the door. It worked fine a few times and just as I was about to pat myself on the back the cable jumped out of the slider block again as it stopped at the bottom end !
Close examination of the slider block revealed the cable retaining slot was cracked and was allowing the cable to jump out when force was exerted.
So, can these slider blocks be obtained separately without having to buy a whole new lifter mech ?
Subsequent to disconnecting the the window from the lifter mechanism and then removing the mechanism from the door I found the cables had jumped of the slider block that raises and lowers the window.
After spending an hour or so working out how to rewind the cables onto the motor drum and thread them around the pulleys etc, I then did a dummy test with the mech out of the door. It worked fine a few times and just as I was about to pat myself on the back the cable jumped out of the slider block again as it stopped at the bottom end !
Close examination of the slider block revealed the cable retaining slot was cracked and was allowing the cable to jump out when force was exerted.
So, can these slider blocks be obtained separately without having to buy a whole new lifter mech ?
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
Procured a new window slider block, or clip as they seem to be known as, from an ebay seller, £10 but still cheaper than a whole new mech.
It is pretty much identical to the original but comes supplied with a plastic, instead of the original wire, window retaining clip. This cannot be used with the original rubber window bush so I re-used the original clip. So far it works ok.
The slider block installs into the to window lifter mech with no problem and works fine.
One little tip, when re-installing the slider block through the rubber window bush, install the wire retaining clip first, then the locating peg on the slider block can be just pushed back into the clip without any fiddling !
So far it's just over a week since I made the repair and all seems fine.
It is pretty much identical to the original but comes supplied with a plastic, instead of the original wire, window retaining clip. This cannot be used with the original rubber window bush so I re-used the original clip. So far it works ok.
The slider block installs into the to window lifter mech with no problem and works fine.
One little tip, when re-installing the slider block through the rubber window bush, install the wire retaining clip first, then the locating peg on the slider block can be just pushed back into the clip without any fiddling !
So far it's just over a week since I made the repair and all seems fine.
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !