hdi fuel saver,how to fit??
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hdi fuel saver,how to fit??
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sorry for posting this in here but it's the busiest place and very helpful.so, I have a peugeot, yes I know im in citroen, but it's a 2.0 hdi and I bought this fuel saver from e bay 190524061185.... It says to fit directly to the fuel pipes but my knowledge is zilch..... under the engine cover the fuel filter appears to have a few pipes going in and out. looking from the e bay page, It seems I fir the devices to the two big pipes with a black gauze round them but I want to make sure, It probably wont work but I thought it worth a try what with the price of fuel. anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated, and sorry for posting in here as well as peugeot but more response in here,cheers,deano
sorry for posting this in here but it's the busiest place and very helpful.so, I have a peugeot, yes I know im in citroen, but it's a 2.0 hdi and I bought this fuel saver from e bay 190524061185.... It says to fit directly to the fuel pipes but my knowledge is zilch..... under the engine cover the fuel filter appears to have a few pipes going in and out. looking from the e bay page, It seems I fir the devices to the two big pipes with a black gauze round them but I want to make sure, It probably wont work but I thought it worth a try what with the price of fuel. anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated, and sorry for posting in here as well as peugeot but more response in here,cheers,deano
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Stick it in the glovebox, door pocket or even the kitchen draw and it will improve your fuel economy just as much I'm afraid
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hmm....Xac wrote:Stick it in the glovebox, door pocket or even the kitchen draw and it will improve your fuel economy just as much I'm afraid
just what someone else wrote on the peugeot forum. well, not to worry, i'm getting ripped off by the government anyway so this guy might as well do it as well. he has good feedback,some saying it saves them money, some say it makes no difference. ah well. you live and learn eh? cheers anyway
Seriously, you're being ripped off by enough over fuel prices as it is, don't be ripped off any more by paying con artists like that for something that cannot work and has been shown not to work.
Some of the time people set up false feedback; or people that buy them want them to work so much that any change in fuel economy they observe is because of the fuel saving device the nice man sold them, and not because of the staggering amount of variables that affects fuel economy.
A general rule of thumb is that if it only costs a few quid, and can be installed in a few minutes: they would already be fitted to your car.
If you don't want to trust my opinion (as a mechanical engineer) then here's another chap who covers this and many more phony fuel savers:
http://www.fuelsaving.info/magnets.htm
-Alex
Some of the time people set up false feedback; or people that buy them want them to work so much that any change in fuel economy they observe is because of the fuel saving device the nice man sold them, and not because of the staggering amount of variables that affects fuel economy.
A general rule of thumb is that if it only costs a few quid, and can be installed in a few minutes: they would already be fitted to your car.
If you don't want to trust my opinion (as a mechanical engineer) then here's another chap who covers this and many more phony fuel savers:
http://www.fuelsaving.info/magnets.htm
-Alex
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thanks for the info. I paid for it so i put it on anyway. me just being naive i guess,hoping to save money on extortionate fuel prices......should have spent the money on a bit extra fuel eh?? cheers anyway for the info,very helpfulA general rule of thumb is that if it only costs a few quid, and can be installed in a few minutes: they would already be fitted to your car.
If you don't want to trust my opinion (as a mechanical engineer) then here's another chap who covers this and many more phony fuel savers:
http://www.fuelsaving.info/magnets.htm
-Alex
I apologise for the tone deano, I just get really worked up about such things.
At least it was only £4 and wouldn't have harmed your engine. Some things go for a lot of money under the guise of "investment opportunity not worth missing" and can do more harm than good.
At least you have a couple of nice sized neodymium magnets to play with, seriously interesting I think
Although on a more serious note, the price of diesel is getting to the boundary where buying a biodiesel reactor is a good investment though...
So long as you could get a nice cheap supply of "good" oil though.
-Alex
At least it was only £4 and wouldn't have harmed your engine. Some things go for a lot of money under the guise of "investment opportunity not worth missing" and can do more harm than good.
At least you have a couple of nice sized neodymium magnets to play with, seriously interesting I think
Although on a more serious note, the price of diesel is getting to the boundary where buying a biodiesel reactor is a good investment though...
So long as you could get a nice cheap supply of "good" oil though.
-Alex
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the price of the oil follows the price of dieselChlorate wrote: Although on a more serious note, the price of diesel is getting to the boundary where buying a biodiesel reactor is a good investment though...
So long as you could get a nice cheap supply of "good" oil though.
-Alex
new cooking oil in the shops is more expensive, and even secondhand oil goes up in price
for anyone interested, make sure you do some decent research on processors, for example it's not usually advised to buy one which involves a plastic container
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Care to elaborate on this? Was seriously considering one of these:andy5 wrote: for anyone interested, make sure you do some decent research on processors, for example it's not usually advised to buy one which involves a plastic container
http://www.ukbiofuelsystems.co.uk/index ... 39e0895613
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One problem is that the process happens at a temperature which isn't very far from the melting point of the plastic, and the mix may also have some long-term detrimental effect on it.
I was rather taken aback when talking to one kit provider, when I asked what about surplus methanol, and he said just let it bubble out. Well, it's toxic, and very inflammable, so you wouldn't want the fumes in the garage or shed.
And they can be overpriced for the actual components, so building your own with better specifications is one approach
I'm no expert, I've just read a bit on a maybe get round to it basis
Useful forum: http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/for ... php?fid=50
I was rather taken aback when talking to one kit provider, when I asked what about surplus methanol, and he said just let it bubble out. Well, it's toxic, and very inflammable, so you wouldn't want the fumes in the garage or shed.
And they can be overpriced for the actual components, so building your own with better specifications is one approach
I'm no expert, I've just read a bit on a maybe get round to it basis
Useful forum: http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/for ... php?fid=50
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What % bio/derv can hdi's cope with?
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I had heard some direct injection engines couldn't even cope with more than 5% bio, hence why they don't get on with morrisons which I think is 7%Peter.N. wrote:Not much more that 0% I wouldn't think, its a completely different animal to an IDI.
Peter
Most derv at the pumps these days I believe are 5% bio.
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