Hmm...

addo · Post by **addo** » 11 Feb 2011, 11:52

Just dropped close on 2000 squid for this - sadly no books and speedo has been flicked (by a prior dealer who saw more profit in a car with lower miles and no paperwork - go figure).

spider · Post by **spider** » 11 Feb 2011, 12:04

They are a good car, underrated though.

I considered an early one (H plate 91 so no cat legally required, despite what they say, go to a non franchise station and it will pass) then I could remove the inj system and power brakes, fit a 405 servo and just a pair of twin carbs. Would 'fix' any brake and running issues.

I seem to recall that V6 unit does not have any timing marks, you have to turn it 180 and then fit the chain for the other bank. I might be thinking of the 604 unit though.

Quite complicated bit of kit though generally

robert_e_smart · Post by **robert_e_smart** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:23

I'd love to try a 605 out. Its a smart car.

spider · Post by **spider** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:31

I can see (I think) that's a later one judging by the front end.

Random guess: one of the last so 96/97

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:33

ooh i like it, have you collected it yet and/or played?

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andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:36

I know that engine well but in a different vehicle! Does the autobox
still work then? That'll be a first - they're usually rubbish.

Andrew

spider · Post by **spider** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:40

andmcit wrote:I know that engine well but in a different vehicle! Does the autobox
still work then? That'll be a first - they're usually rubbish.

Andrew

They are ?

I thought they were more or less completely mechanical 4 speed so no AL4 type 'issues' to be concerned about, I am probably completely wrong though

addo · Post by **addo** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:42

1995 I think. Facelift was in May of that year.

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:46

They are an awesome Hp18 4 speed hydro mechanical box, if they are serviced well they go on forever, i think blocked heat exchangers and black old oil kill them stone dead but other than that they are ok.
Now try and find a MK2 V6 that isnt on its 2nd HP20 gearbox and i will eat my shoes

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andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:53

Crumbs, I wouldn't go so far as to say they're an awesome gearbox Dean!!
That challenge with the Xm V6 is purely because they probably only sold
enough new to count on one hand...?

Xant v6 24v's seen to run to chunky mileages mind - smae box/engine.
Sure, there's been Jims and the duff red one recently on eBay that show
they can go pop too. I can show you a fully maintained Xm 2.0i manual
that lost it's 5th gear.

Andrew

andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 11 Feb 2011, 21:00

Maybe I'm just too anti-auto? Mind, I DO like the autoadaptive on the v6...

Andrew

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 11 Feb 2011, 21:01

Dont ask me why but they seem to suffer in the XM, do you remember a couple of years back when two came up for sale within a few weeks of each other and one was on its second box the other its 3rd rebuild?

The HP18 is ok, i know your not a fan but its a lovable little box (albeit a 2cv sort of wierd love). Manual boxes seem to suffer just as much as auto's now, i think high mileage and hard use is starting to hit some if them though unfortunatly, shame about the xm Andrew, is it going to be fixed or is it a donor?

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andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 11 Feb 2011, 21:12

They're all going to go; I'll take up Robert's advice and weigh them all in.

robert_e_smart · Post by **robert_e_smart** » 11 Feb 2011, 21:31

I'll take up Robert's advice and weigh them all in.

Be quick, prices are falling. I phoned my scrap man yesterday, scrap down to £150/tonne, from £170/tonne when I sent the estate wreckage in.

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 11 Feb 2011, 21:40

andmcit wrote:They're all going to go; I'll take up Robert's advice and weigh them all in.

Are you serious Andrew or are you just thinking of weighing in the immobile ones rather than your whole collection, i know ebay is full of time wasters but surely you could whack them up with a £250bin and get some use from them plus a little extra money for your efforts?

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