LHM sprung vehicles

KP · Post by KP » 30 Dec 2010, 15:39

Does anyone know why citroen haven't used Hydraulics in any of their heavier vehicles throughout the years, namely vans?

Just wondering as i always thought the physics of it meant the heavier the wieght carried by the system the better the ride was? also by experience of shoving over 200kg in the boot of an old Xantia non hydractive

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 30 Dec 2010, 15:42

Cross manufacturing with Fiat/Peugeot to keep costs down I would imagine.

Post by **myglaren** » 30 Dec 2010, 16:04

Some JCB & Caterpillar earth movers have hydro-pneumatic suspension, as do some dump trucks used mainly in open cast mining.

CGATCX25GTITURBO · Post by **CGATCX25GTITURBO** » 30 Dec 2010, 16:19

myglaren wrote:Some JCB & Caterpillar earth movers have hydro-pneumatic suspension, as do some dump trucks used mainly in open cast mining.

I saw that walking around one of the JCB sites, have to keep my eyes peeled next time I go to CAT

Just got my Bx spheres re charged today, bliss the rears came off soo easily too, its a different car

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 30 Dec 2010, 16:59

JCB V6 Activa anyone?

Operators can choose from four suspension modes: maintenance and transport mode lowers the suspension fully; excavator mode lowers and fixes the rear axle and allows front axle to float, mimicking a backhoe; shovel mode does the reverse, simulating a wheel loader; and travel mode to achieve high road speeds.

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KP · Post by KP » 30 Dec 2010, 18:29

Just a cost things then really..

Dam Pug bean counters!

Does anyone think there would be a real advantage to having this on say a Ducato sized vehicle other than dropping to the floor and rising up again and riding over speed bumps with much greater poise than current vehicles? Even ones with airbags for the rear suspension?

addo · Post by **addo** » 30 Dec 2010, 19:40

Sort of. With the larger tare vehicles, I would suggest you'd need in concert some means to vary gas pressure "on the fly". Simplest might be a pair of Hydractive type spheres switched in or out.

citroenesque · Post by **citroenesque** » 30 Dec 2010, 22:02

This would've been a good one: A BX-based MPV and contemporary to the Espace...

No looker though

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 30 Dec 2010, 22:07

Yup and Peugeot weren't interested so he went to Renault and they built the Espace.
Sometimes I wonder how Peugeot manage to survive

Homer · Post by **Homer** » 30 Dec 2010, 22:41

citroenesque wrote: No looker though

And the first Espace was?

Back on topic, I do remember something based on a C25 van with hydro-pneumatic suspension but as far as I remember it was a one-off.

KP · Post by KP » 31 Dec 2010, 18:47

Im thinking much bigger than that

not sprinter LWB High Top size mind but more like this,

Post by **myglaren** » 31 Dec 2010, 19:09

Will! your image is being blocked. Ff claims that it is on an untrusted connection.

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 31 Dec 2010, 19:24

Fixed